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Posted by bigdukesix on February 9th, 2012 under Recruiting
Another impressive group of recruits is scheduled to be in Austin on Sunday. Let’s start to take a look at these guys.
QB, Tyrone Swoopes, Whitewright (6-5, 220)
Swoopes appears to be the guy at QB for Texas, as he is the only QB with a JD1 invite. Swoopes is ranked #11 nationally in Rivals 2013 rankings, though he’s ranked significantly lower by 24/7. Attended OU’s JR Day but does not appear to have been offered.
RB, Dontre Wilson, DeSoto (5-10, 163)
Has reportedly been promised an offer. Also reportedly loves Oregon. Wilson is probably a 3rd down change of pace back/slot WR at Texas.
WR/TE, Ricky Seals-Jones, Sealy (6-5, 220)
Attended LSU’s Junior Day this past weekend and was offered. Ranked as the #1 WR in the class of 2013 by Rivals, though is thought to be a future TE by many. Either way, a must get.
WR, Jake Oliver, Dallas Jesuit (6-4, 194)
Father went to A&M and his brother is currently at OU. Attended OU’s JR Day last weekend. Has been promised an offer. Ranked 61 in the country by Rivals, 51 by 24/7.
WR, Ra’Shaad Samples, Dallas Skyline (6-0, 170)
Attended A&M’s JR Day, but I don’t think they’re a serious threat. He really likes Texas.
TE, Durham Smythe, Belton (6-6, 221)
From David Ash’s old HS. Father played football at Baylor and is a surgeon. Smythe is very serious about academics, and as such Stanford is a serious player here. He’s the dual-threat (receiving and blocking) tight end that Texas desperately needs in this class IMO.
OG/C, Darius James, Killeen Harker Heights (6-5, 319)
Ranked 92 nationally by Rivals and 32 by 24/7. Texas needs a center this year, and James is far and away the best out there.
OT, Kent Perkins, Richardson Lake Highlands (6-5, 300)
Top OT in the state and a must get. Ranked 19 by 24/7 and 25 by Rivals. Some Aggies like their chances. Does their optimism last past early next week? Don’t bet on it.
OL/DL, Jake Raulerson, Celina (6-4, 250)
Horn.
OT, Ishmael Wilson, Dallas Bishop Dunne (6-4, 250)
Went to LSU’s JR Day last weekend. Was reportedly told that Les Miles hadn’t seen his film yet. Grass-eating BCS title game blower, IMO. Hopefully Wilson will be turned off by the massive dysfunction in Baton Rouge like Torshiro Davis was, as he would be the perfect bookend to compliment Perkins.
OL/DL, A’Shawn Robinson, Fort Worth Arlington Heights (6-4, 302)
Ranked 69 by Rivals, 48 by 24/7. Just get him signed and figure out where he plays later. That said, I don’t think he’ll be a JD1 commitment.
DT, Justin Manning, Dallas Kimball (6-3, 275)
Ranked 61 by 24/7 and 89 by Rivals. With Golden committing to A&M and subsequently declining a JR Day invite from Texas, Manning appears to be the clear #1 on the DT board. Brother played for OU. Was scheduled to attend OU’s JR Day but was unable to get a ride. Has supposedly already been promised an offer.
DT, Vincent Taylor, San Antonio Madison (6-3, 240)
I get the impression Taylor is a backup plan if Texas feels they are going to strike out on the other DTs on their board.
LB, Naashon Hughes, Killeen Harker Heights (6-4, 210)
Brother of Camron.
RB, Kyle Hicks (Arlington Martin) (5’10” 185)
A late addition to the JD1 list, could Hicks be the RB in this class? Ranked 271 by 24/7.
Let me know if you can find video on him, as I can’t.
With that out of the way, let’s get down to commitments.
A big question with the class of 2013 is how many scholarships will be available. I studied the roster and came up with 10 total scholarship seniors. Jeffcoat and Byndom are potential early entries, depending on how their junior seasons go. Keep in mind that the ‘Horns still need some pre-fall attrition to get under the 85 man limit for 2012. My rough estimate was a class somewhere in the neighborhood of 18. Eric Nahlin thinks that the new staff members haven’t finished trimming the fat, and that Texas could go as high as 21 in this class a result. Either way, this will be a smaller class. And with an improved product on the field and tenacious recruiters in Davis, Wyatt, and Applewhite all showing a willingness to go out of state that wasn’t present in past Texas staffs, it all adds up to Texas being extra-selective this year.
This means you can expect a number of players attending JD2 and even JD1 to get slow-played and to leave campus without a committable offer. In theory, only the bluest of the blues should come away with the coveted golden ticket on Sunday. For me, each of the offensive linemen, Swoopes, Seals-Jones, Oliver, Manning, and Smythe are all in this category. I wouldn’t expect Oliver, Manning, Robinson, or Wilson to commit to Texas this early, however.
What are your thoughts? Who should get offered? Who does get offered? Of that group, who commits immediately or soon after?
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Ty said:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:49 am
I understand the slow playing and realize it’s unavoidable – especially with the low numbers this year. I worry about the consequences of bringing a group of kids in and then only selecting some of them. Does this not leave those without offers with a sour taste in their mouths?
Jake Lonergan said:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:52 am
I didn’t see Hughes in your offer list. He will offer and be commit #2, IMO.
ATXHorn said:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:00 am
Hicks film.
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/476886/kyle-hicks#.TzLzKTrmhpA.email
Spastic Synapse said:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:09 am
Quite a list. And quite a list for JD2 as well. I think you nailed it with:
“each of the offensive linemen, Swoopes, Seals-Jones, Oliver, Manning, and Smythe are all in this category. I wouldn’t expect Oliver, Manning, Robinson, or Wilson to commit to Texas this early, however”
And we’ll come away with an impressive number of top 100 national players right off the bat.
Snide Aside said:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Swoopes, RSJ and Smythe – If we get those three, the 2013 class will be hugely successful!
Pounds said:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:29 am
With the recent interest from Urban and Saban, do we really expect a commit from Swoopes this weekend?
ChicagoHorn said:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:31 am
Are we still going after Golden and Griffin, even after their early commitment to Swaggy?
STLaw said:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:35 am
I just want James, WIlson, Perkins in the bag right away. Talk about filling the cupboard for OL.
RSJ and Smythe would be nice too. Manning, Swoopes, and Oliver would be a nice catch as well.
Slow play the RBs imho. This is a position we can afford to see if there are any late bloomers. Same goes for LBs. Don’t know if we are going to take a whole lot of DBs this year. The depth chart is getting pretty clogged with great DBs that would start for any other school.
Magnitude said:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:09 am
RS-J is no WR. He’s sloppy. And his footwork is pretty bad. Oliver is what a tall reciever (love his blocking BTW) should look like. RS-J is going to need at least 2+ seasons to see the field as a WR (he’s that rough and sloppy). He really needs to reconsider coming in as a TE. That’s his greatest upside…
Dagga Roosta said:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:13 am
Kyle Hicks? Are we also recruiting Michael Hewey?
Magnitude said:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:19 am
Wow, there is a lot of talent on display above… Is it more or does anyone else think that Hughes is a Keenan Robinson clone?
Saul said:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:20 am
ATXHorn,
Thanks for the link. I watched that and sought Hicks out in the following links:
hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUQVK-IcHwE
hxxp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouBZa4ah7tU
Seems he could contribute at running back and return man in college. I’d guess probably 3 or 4 stars in rankings. Elements of his skill set reminded me of Fozzy and Trey Williams, so that was promising to see. Interesting prospect. The head coach may be a character too, if that one video is any indication.
Good luck to them.
RomaVicta said:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:29 am
Thanks for all the film and information. New to me was watching Oliver. I love that guy and not just because his film had the (by far) best production values. I was impressed that the film included his nasty, tenacious blocking. If he comes here, I think we get a couple of Quanesque blocking highlights to go with some clutch receptions.
Not saying he’s the best prospect, but I like what I see. Also loved Smythe, and he will give us some offensive name balance to Lord Carrington of Byndom. In fact, I believe there was an intrigue at Castle Byndom involving the Smythes in the Fourteenth Century. Of course, a dirty little war followed. Hope that doesn’t impact Smythe’s choice. Harrumph.
ChicagoHorn said:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:34 am
Dang. I still can’t believe Isaiah Golden committed Aggie, then canceled the junior day invite. I gotta say, it kinda makes me want to get him more. I feel like that’s the old slumpbuster move, you know… flirting with a girl that’s a 6, knowing damn well that her girlfriend, a 10, is sitting right next to her watching the whole thing unfold, wondering why she isn’t getting full attention. Damn it.. it always works
max fischer said:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:39 am
You don’t see too many guys who go 6’5 319 who can move around like Darius James. Very glad that we’re believed to be in the catbird seat with that kid.
hah said:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:50 am
chicago, if you are wishing to sound exactly like an aggy trying to pass as a horn, you are spectacular.
ag96 said:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:51 am
If Golden actually is shutting it down (as he appears to be) that makes me think that Sumlin and co are going to take a harder stance on what it means to be “committed” this year. It was tough to do for 2012 as they were playing catch up but it’ll be a nice change in philosophy if so.
Fellache Me said:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:00 pm
ag96, that’s all good and well that Sumlin is taking a harder stance on what it means to be “committed” but aggy really has no bargaining leverage when it comes to football recruiting. They are more like TCU in that regard. Threatening elite talent that you will pull there offer isn’t going to do anything but piss kids off when you are a backup school to begin with.
ag96 said:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:07 pm
I don’t necessarily think they’re going to be threatening to pull offers but there’s definitely a lot of room between there and letting kids take visits the week before signing day.
And you’re welcome to think that A&M is only a backup plan but we both know that isn’t the case for a lot of kids.
Texastough said:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:08 pm
I’m not feeling it with Samples. He may be smart & have good hands, but he small and slow. He might have D-1 talent but with all the wide receivers this year in state and us taking a smaller class I wish we would slow play him.
Really like Oliver, Smythe, Ishmael Wilson and Hughes
February 9th, 2012 at 12:09 pm
Oliver blocks like a dick. Complete opposite of Mike Davis blocks like a vagina.
bigdukesix said:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Are we still going after Golden and Griffin, even after their early commitment to Swaggy?
Golden perhaps. With Griffin, there was talk that Texas wouldn’t recruit him even before his commitment to A&M. I believe the issue was borderline grades, and Mack typically avoids those recruitments.
bigdukesix said:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
Does this not leave those without offers with a sour taste in their mouths?
Yes, it’s definitely happened before. It’s one of the bigger challenges this staff faces, imo.
I didn’t see Hughes in your offer list. He will offer and be commit #2, IMO.
Yeah, he’s a good bet to come out of this weekend committed.
ronald said:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:30 pm
I would be shocked if Oliver does not commit this weekend, I think that is one of a half dozen or so recruitments that has been in the books for months but will be finalized/formalized this weekend.
bigdukesix said:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:39 pm
It just seemed to me with his connections elsewhere that Oliver’s recruitment would take a little longer to play out. But Jesus and others have been positive on him for awhile now, so it wouldn’t surprise me if you’re right.
bigdukesix said:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Hicks film.
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/476886/kyle-hicks#.TzLzKTrmhpA.email
Thanks!
10HORNS said:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:40 pm
Oliver is a nasty little shit isn’t he. I love the he blocks downfield. Maybe he can teach that to the rest of our receivers.
10HORNS said:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:41 pm
oops!! the way he blocks downfield.
Big Ern said:
February 9th, 2012 at 12:57 pm
First of all saying you are shutting it down this early in the process is worthless. If ya’ll have a piss poor year – which most non-Aggies, and even a fair number of rational aggies expect – kids will get wandering eyes. Next February is a long ways away.
Secondly, I would be shocked if Oliver commits this weekend. I got the sense from interviews with the kid that he will take his time and take at least a few OVs before pulling the trigger anywhere.
We’ll see. Would be fantastic to land him – kid looks like the top receiver in state without a doubt.
Big Ern said:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
Also there is some speculation from posters on some of the paysites that have supposed connections to the staff that Harsin and staff will not wait long on Swoopes, and if he does not commit early, his offer will go out to another QB. There are certainly a lot of good targets out there, so that could make some sense.
I would hate to see us wait out Swoopes, lose out on Cody Thomas and JT Barrett, and then also have Swoopes go elsewhere. Especially when it sounds as though we may be one of the few in-state schools that see Swoopes as the best target.
yeh said:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:04 pm
every time the defense gives oliver something he asks for more.
my understanding is he is very high on our program and our school. that speaks so highly of his folks that i can’t effectively convey my admiration for them. much reminiscent of the my impression of the james gray family.
LoneOptimist said:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:24 pm
This may have already been addressed or may not be a very good question but considering Swoopes obvious talent/athletic advantage, when I look up Whitewright, why do they have a 7-4 record? I understand he can only play a couple positions but I would expect a higher scoring output from the Tigers. Obviously the elite universities are after him so they see the potential, but has anyone seen first hand the talent disadvantage that Swoopes is having to overcome?
lonesome devil said:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Raulerson
Swoopes(QB or TE)
Barrett(I know but it is a wish list)
Oliver
RSJ (TE – Next Jermichael Finley?)
Smythe
James
Perkins
Wilson (great feet)
Hughes
Fellache Me said:
February 9th, 2012 at 1:35 pm
ag96, my apologies, I didn’t mean to come off like A&M is a backup school to ALL kids. I would be willing to bet that at least half the football recruits would do anything short of killing someone for a Texas offer though.
Secreting Emails said:
February 9th, 2012 at 2:10 pm
Baylor lost 3 games this year, I guess RG3 really isn’t that good.
coolhorn said:
February 9th, 2012 at 2:11 pm
The Hicks film is surprisingly impressive. He blows right through arm tackles, is quick, and has some wiggle. I’m not sure he’s the running back that gets the big offer, but if not, some school’s gonna get lucky with him. Hello TCU???
Dizzy Rooster said:
February 9th, 2012 at 2:32 pm
TCU has its hooks in Arlington Martin. I think Hicks is a DB though.
ag96 said:
February 9th, 2012 at 2:45 pm
Fellache, no worries, I agree that a lot of kids are waiting on Texas offers (as Marcus Johnson made quite clear earlier this winter). Early word is that Sumlin is really impressing on the recruiting trail and I’m hoping he can change some past perceptions. In 358 days or so we’ll have a more accurate picture :)
I’m curious to see what Oliver does, I’ve heard a variety of things on who he prefers but it wouldn’t surprise me to see him commit.
On DL recruits, do y’all think the depth chart and your 2012 recruiting class could end up working against you there?
Arriviste said:
February 9th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Seals-Jones wants to play WR? I thought Gronkowski/Jimmy Graham/Gates etc had all made playing TE cool again…?
coolhorn said:
February 9th, 2012 at 3:34 pm
Numbers is the only thing that’s gonna work against the Horns with D-line recruiting. It’s doubtful the Horns take more than four D-linemen, and three is a more likely number, depending on overall attrition. I could see one two tackles and one end recruited for the D-line, above and beyond Maulerson, who might find a home at strongside defensive end…or not. If the Horns can bag Manning and perhaps bring Quincey Russell back aboard, they’ll be finished at tackle. I’m not sure who the defensive end recruit will be.
Claus said:
February 9th, 2012 at 3:42 pm
Griffin- long way to go to get qualified
Golden- less of a risk but still has to get grades up
Samples- think you are totaling wrong on him, I’d be shocked if we don’t get him.
Perkins- think we can battle y’all for him, we actually have a recruiter in Dallas now.
HMFIC said:
February 9th, 2012 at 4:04 pm
Dontre Wilson – made a midweek visit to BCS to visit with Sumlin. Unusual for a DFW kid.
Samples – Stayed overnight at A&M after jr day visit. Sister is in grad school here.
Griffin – Huge grade risk. Hopefully shutting it down allows him to get them up.
Perkins/Gustafson – are very interested in A&M. Gustafson is a legacy.
Oliver – I’d be suprised if he ended up at A&M. Supposedly enamored with Horns.
Big Ern said:
February 9th, 2012 at 4:35 pm
Thought I had read somewhere that both Dontre Wilson and Samples were already very enamored of Oregon. Especially Dontre.
Big Ern said:
February 9th, 2012 at 4:40 pm
I forgot it was that time of year again when Aggie hopes spring eternal. Overnight visits, tales of heightened interest and the fresh virgin optimism of a new staff on the recruiting trail selling the same package of misery but in a new meat casing.
Longonhorns said:
February 9th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
darius james is a solid 6 5 that is quick on his feet. buddy of mine has seen him play basketball first hand recently and indicates he is a must land for texas
Claus said:
February 9th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
Yes Big ern we are optimistic, we had a Top 15 class last year and will have one this year.
We have 3 Rivals 250 guys commited and the #2 player in Texas commited.
We have a Top 25 recruiter in Dallas that landed the #1 CB and #1 WR In Texas within a month of being on the job.
Almost every member of our staff as been a rec. cor. before which is a pleasant surprise
More good than bad going on.
realmccoy said:
February 9th, 2012 at 5:44 pm
I am not saying Aggie and realistic expectations should ever be put in the same sentence, but Sumlin scares me. Every clip I see of him he comes off as a charasmatic and impressive dude. Hope I’m wrong – but it will surprise me if he doesn’t really add some punch to Aggie recruiting efforts.
coolhorn said:
February 9th, 2012 at 5:58 pm
I admire the unbridled optimism of some of our visitors from agricultural. Yep, I get it that Sumlin doesn’t need his afternoon nap like a previous coach, and it’s nice that they have a recruiter in the Metroplex, whoever he is, rather than a warm body. That being said, Texas north of Bagdad on the Brazos belongs to UT and zero-u, with Bible aggy thrown in for good measure. Come back and tell me what an ace recruiting staff the state’s farm school has AFTER they grab some players us and the okies want. I do have one question for our visitors…why are you on a LONGHORN board? You’re not on our schedule. You won’t be for the rest of your lives. Wouldn’t it be appropriate to go visit someone in your new neighborhood?
2th DK said:
February 9th, 2012 at 8:59 pm
coolhorn, be cool! And you left out TCU ;>)
ag96 said:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:15 pm
I admire the unbridled optimism of some of our visitors from agricultural. Yep, I get it that Sumlin doesn’t need his afternoon nap like a previous coach, and it’s nice that they have a recruiter in the Metroplex, whoever he is, rather than a warm body. That being said, Texas north of Bagdad on the Brazos belongs to UT and zero-u, with Bible aggy thrown in for good measure. Come back and tell me what an ace recruiting staff the state’s farm school has AFTER they grab some players us and the okies want.
Like Golden? Holding an OU offer and invited to your junior day.
I do have one question for our visitors…why are you on a LONGHORN board? You’re not on our schedule. You won’t be for the rest of your lives. Wouldn’t it be appropriate to go visit someone in your new neighborhood?
Because while it can be challenging to wade through the orange-tinted arrogance here we’re still recruiting a lot of the same players and there’s some good coverage of those kids on this site. And I can generally post here without being told to go die in a fire unless most of your people’s other virtual hangouts.
Claus said:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:45 pm
Because I like to keep tabs on you guys and recruits.
Based on Rivals, ESPN, Scout and 247 here are the Top Texas 42. All 4 rankings combined without basis.
1. Tyrone Swoopes QB
2. Derrick Griffin WR
3. Jake Raulerson OT/DE
4. Ricky Sealy Jones ATH
5. Kent Perkins OT
6. Jake Oliver WR
7. Darius James OL/DL
8. Keith Ford RB
9. Justin Manning DL
10. Dontre Wilson RB
11. Kohl Stewart QB
12. A’Shawn Robinson OL/DL
13. Isiah Golden DT
14. Jamar Gibson WR
15. Adam Taylor RB
16. JT Barret QB
17. Ishmael WIlson OT
18. Cody Thomas QB
19. Kameron Miles S
20. Marcel Ateman WR
21. Brett Wade LB
22. Paul Whitmill LB
23. Devin Lauderdale WR
24. Ty Slanina ATH
25. Christian Morgan TE
26. Gary Moore WR
27. Mike Mitchell LB
28. Jacorey Warrick WR
29. Laquvionte Gonzalez ATH
30. Kerrick Huggins DT
31. Kenny Hill QB
32. Jamel James RB
33. Antwuan Davis DB
34. Chevoski Collins ATH
35. Vequan Jones WR
36. RaShaad Samples WR
37. Robbie Rhodes ATH
38. Fred Ross WR
39. Vincent Taylor DE
40. Eldridge Massington WR
41. James White RB
42. Ja’Braylin Thomas OT
HMFIC said:
February 9th, 2012 at 9:46 pm
Despite the fact that a vocal number on either side are excited not to play the other anymore, as long as both schools exist there is going to be a large amount of shit talking going on. If we don’t play each other I think the rivalry will get that much more entertaining.
Brian Polian, David Beaty, and BJ Anderson are pretty good recruiters. We used to have one or two recruiters on the Franchione/Sherman staff. This is the first time that they all recruit, to include the coordinators. And Sumlin looks like he is a much better closer than anyone else.
Thomas Johnson, Devante Harris, Polo, and Ed Pope would not have ended up at A&M if it weren’t for Beaty/Anderson. All four were highly thought of players. Golden has essentially shut down recruiting and told his coaches not to give him mail from other schools. Manning is visiting on JD2. We’ll see how we do then… But it sounds like Samples will be commiting to A&M sometime before the end of the month. Sumlin has said he’ll have half his class before the end of spring practice.
Mysterious Package said:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:07 pm
No settling this year guys. If we have to recruit all year for Swoopes or Golden then so be it. That’s what it takes sometimes. Is Hughes ranked?
Mysterious Package said:
February 9th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Haven’t seen Hughes on any rankings, yet he is a blue chip? Services should have seen him in action because of his brother, no?
Mike said:
February 9th, 2012 at 11:55 pm
I can’t seem to find any ranking either for Hughes, anyone have a link to where we might find it?
TKO said:
February 10th, 2012 at 1:59 am
Hadn’t seen film on Naashon Hughes before, and I was pleasantly surprised. I was leery that he might be another little bro who was offered because he was a little bro. Clearly not so in his case. His film is very impressive. Has anyone here seen him live?
Also, was wondering if we could get the entire Harker Heights O-line along with James. Those boys were flat-out tearing it up.
Loftin's Bowtie said:
February 10th, 2012 at 7:39 am
To the aggies above, I actually hope y’all do get Samples. I think Texas can do better. You’re not getting Perkins.
HousHorn09 said:
February 10th, 2012 at 7:56 am
The more I see of Jake Oliver the more & more I like this kid. Someone called him a “nasty, little shit” and that sits very well with me. He plays with a high level of confidence and it shows. His routes are run well & his blocking is fucking tits. He takes his defender out of the play, out of bounds and keeps them that way until the whistle blows the play dead. That’s a rare breed to see that consistent level of play. Give him a ticket Mack.
horn2000 said:
February 10th, 2012 at 8:07 am
Jake Oliver is very Ed McCaffrey. Now I said what you all wanted to say.
RomaVicta said:
February 10th, 2012 at 8:17 am
I don’t mind the Aggies coming over here as long as they don’t descend into the institutionalized idiocies they’re taught at “fish camp.” I get their optimism about the new staff’s recruiting and the possibility that moving to the SEC will somehow make them a power program. Only time will tell if they’re right. Odds are they have hired better recruiters. Odds are that they will not do much better in the SEC than they did in the Big 12. But there’s a chance.
Horncasting said:
February 10th, 2012 at 8:21 am
“I studied the roster and came up with 10 total scholarship seniors.”
I believe your 10 includes DJ Grant, who will almost surely be granted another year if he wants it.
So we already need attrition to get to 85 THIS year. To get there by next year you are looking at attrition of at least 11 just to get to 18 signees next year. That is a huge number any year, let alone on top of the huge numbers we’ve already seen in the last 6 months.
Horncasting said:
February 10th, 2012 at 8:23 am
Asking why someone is on another teams’ board is the very essence of Texags.
bigdukesix said:
February 10th, 2012 at 8:37 am
I agree. As long as they aren’t trolling, I don’t mind the Aggies’ presence here. And Ag96 and even Claus have been contributing to the conversation.
Fellache Me said:
February 10th, 2012 at 8:51 am
Claus said:
February 9th, 2012 at 5:40 pm
We have a Top 25 recruiter in Dallas that landed the #1 CB and #1 WR In Texas within a month of being on the job.
Flenory?
bigdukesix said:
February 10th, 2012 at 8:57 am
I believe your 10 includes DJ Grant, who will almost surely be granted another year if he wants it.
You’re right. If he wants it and the team wants it he’s a slam dunk for a 6th year. I could foresee a scenario where he isn’t asked back though, as he didn’t set the world on fire last year. A 6th year shouldn’t be a guarantee.
So we already need attrition to get to 85 THIS year. To get there by next year you are looking at attrition of at least 11 just to get to 18 signees next year.
Point taken, that’s some serious attrition. I’m predicting that Jeffcoat and Byndom leave early, so there’s two. And then the team would have until August 2013 to free up 8 or 9 scholarships. Hardly a given, but not impossible either.
ag96 said:
February 10th, 2012 at 9:12 am
To the aggies above, I actually hope y’all do get Samples. I think Texas can do better. You’re not getting Perkins.
I don’t think we’re expecting to get Perkins, I’ve heard he’s a Texas lean at this point. As far as Samples there’s just a whole lot of really good receivers in state this year, I’d be very happy to end up with some combination of Griffin, Gibson, Oliver, RSJ, Samples, Warrick, Ateman, Gonzalez, Lauderdale, and Ross.
Flenory?
I laughed. Though if anything I think he stole one from us.
Horncasting said:
February 10th, 2012 at 9:24 am
“I could foresee a scenario where he isn’t asked back though, as he didn’t set the world on fire last year. A 6th year shouldn’t be a guarantee.”
Grant has stayed eligible, out of trouble and by all accounts I’ve seen seems like a hard worker and good teammate. He’s rehabbed his way back from significant injuries, with the injuries being the primary reason he hasn’t set the world on fire. To not ask a kid back who has done all of that for the team would be pretty sleazy in my opinion.
Horncasting said:
February 10th, 2012 at 9:25 am
Also, I think you are right on Jeffcoat, but think Byndom comes back.
Back-to-back Thorpes again.
Davey O'Brien said:
February 10th, 2012 at 9:37 am
It will be very, very interesting to see how the numbers work out for Texas with their early offers.
That number of 10 drops to 9 if Goodwin decides to sit out this spring and fall due to the Olympics. Bottom line is that if he wants to truly compete in London next August/Sept. he has to focus purely on the long jump and nothing else. He isn’t a shoe in to make the team and the three Americans who had the three top jumps in the US last year all now do nothing but train for that event. It is a very tough choice for the kid. Do you go all in on to try to reach a dream now or do you run the risk of playing football and having to wait for a chance that you might not get again.
In terms of 21 potential scholarships available I really find that an intriguing number. Take a quick peak at the Texas roster and find 8-10 names you feel you can trim out of the program? Problem is that roster is heavy with sophomores, freshmean, and now a big incoming class. Eyebalilng the roster I think I counted 47 kids on the current roster who project to be juniors or younger and that excludes players like Barnett, Howell, Graham, Cotton, and Dorsey. Add in the class of 28 that is 75 and you are going to need a great deal of attrition to get remotely close to 18-20 scholarships for next year. It gets bantered back and worth and I don’t want to start a discussion in a public forum about who we believe is just filling a roster spot for Texas, but the reality is there aren’t many spots.
This is the very reason I don’t think you can offer a kid you absolutely aren’t certain will develop into being a player and not just program caulk or a bridge to a high school program.
Position wise Texas has tentatively 4 quarterbacks going into next season with 3 being sophs or younger. Can’t see them taking 2 especially when the excuse on Bo Wallace was partially depth chart management.
Runningback Texas loses 3 next year, but those are really the bottom of the depth chart. Does a kid like Wilson or Hicks want to come to Texas and know they at best are splitting carries with Brown, Bergeron, and Gray?
Wide Receiver needs bodies, especially bigger bodies as Texas has more than enough smaller guys.
Tight end is a must and it needs to be people who project easily and not need to gain 50 lbs. in a season.
Offensive line I believe you need to get your roster up to 18-20 players. Center is a must and I think you take tackles who if they don’t make it there can swing down inside.
Defensive line is interesting with the large number of young bodies that still haven’t shown a great deal of either consistency or enough sample size to know what you truly have at the position yet (i.e. Daniels, Wilson, Dorsey all project well). I think you only offer if you are sure what you have at defensive tackle and I am not sure if there is a must offer now at defensive end in the state at this time.
Linebacker is a place that unless there is significant attrition I just don’t see how you take more than one tops. On the roster you have Benson, Cobbs, Edmond, Hicks, Jackson, and Thompson if you believe Moss is moving to FB. Plus you have Santos, De La Torre, Jinkins and Cole coming in the Fall. That is 10-11 linebackers who are juniors or younger.
Defensive back is equally crowded with 14 kids projected in the fall and only one for sure being gone in 2013. At corner Texas has Byndom, Diggs, Turner, White, Scott, and Echols (presuming Barnett is gone) and safety is equally crowded with Vacarro, Phillips, Evans, Thompson, and Jackson. Mix in Colbert at safety, Thomas at corner, and I am not sure where with Vacarro that leaves 13 that could be back in 2013.
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February 10th, 2012 at 9:42 am
Horncasting,
I agree with you that cutting out an additional 8-10 scholarships at this point is going to require significant attrition that I just don’t see happening at this point and time.
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February 10th, 2012 at 10:10 am
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Why do you always make it a aggies versus UT? It is getting very tiresome of you messing up the blog with making everything atm versus Texas. We do not care what Sumlin is doing. He has not done crap. Winning at U of Houston with Briles players is not a great accomplishment. aggies made a mistake in letting Sherman leave the program. Sherman making progress. Our rival is OU.
TexasBorn said:
February 10th, 2012 at 10:25 am
I read that we should expect 10-12 commits in the bag before Jr days are over. Truth to that? That would be a perfect number IMO. A strong number to help others come along as the year progresses. Just hope we don’t give up on Golden, it’s gonna be tough to turn down Texas for a whole year
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February 10th, 2012 at 10:51 am
TexasBorn,
Who said that? Seems awfully high to me. Only 15 kids are expected there, and some of them are not even expected to necessarily get offered this weekend. Plus, a lot of these kids are drawing national attention and seem like they are at least saying they want to take a few visits before committing anywhere. My guess would be under 5.
I’m guessing by mid next week the following commits are in:
Kent Perkins
Naashon Hughes
Swoopes
With an outside shot at Oliver – but I would be surprised to see him not at least look at a few other of the 50 schools that have offered him.
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February 10th, 2012 at 10:57 am
RSJ seems to have been smitten with LSU after visitng, Smythe seems like he will at least look at Stanford before committing, Darius James is now expected to look long and hard at OU according to Gerry Hamilton and most of the other guys were never considered slam dunks for UT.
Manning, Samples, both Dontrae and Ishmael Wilson, A’Shawn, and Hicks all seem like guys that we are in decent to very good positions for, but don’t seem ready to commit from what I have read. Also, if the staff has upwards of 12 kids commit this weekend on top of Raulerson, you are getting really close to having over half to 3/4ths of your class locked up before their senior seasons start. Seems like the new staff was trying to move away from that.
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February 10th, 2012 at 11:27 am
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Why do you always make it a aggies versus UT? It is getting very tiresome of you messing up the blog with making everything atm versus Texas. We do not care what Sumlin is doing. He has not done crap. Winning at U of Houston with Briles players is not a great accomplishment. aggies made a mistake in letting Sherman leave the program. Sherman making progress. Our rival is OU.
Feel free to show me where I’m “messing up the blog”, generally speaking I’m responding directly to comments and discussing mutual recruiting targets (which we’re going to continue to have whether we’re your rival or not). If there was a massive backlash against my comments here I’d be happy to move on but I have some good conversation with a lot of posters and do my best to productively contribute.
And in my best attempt to not view things through maroon colored glasses you probably should at least slightly care what Sumlin is doing, he’s brought in a staff of guys known for their recruiting and could have more of an effect on in state recruiting than some expect. Whether that’s sustainable or not remains to be seen.
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February 10th, 2012 at 11:35 am
That Belton TE is intriguing, may have to go down the road and see him play. Seems to be getting alot of attention.
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February 10th, 2012 at 11:36 am
Here’s what the Aggies said about the ‘Cosm’s JD1 prediction from last season. Good stuff.
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From recruitocosm. Love to hear the MODS thoughts on this because i feel this article is very wrong.
Texas Recruiting 2012: Junior Day Predictions and Analysis
Posted by Jesus Shuttlesworth on February 4th, 2011
We’ve been told that the staff expects to have 10 commitments as a result of the Feb. 13th and Feb. 26th junior day. In terms of names, we’ve got a few nuggets that come right from the horse’s mouth and we’ll indicate what we’re hearing as we go through the Feb. 13 list of attendees .
Cayleb Jones.Wideout. Austin High. There was scuttlebutt that Auburn leads due to his relationship with Emory Blake and an alleged slight somewhere in the recruiting process but we were told by someone close to the staff that Texas is the clear-cut leader at this point. In fact, with an offer more or less already in hand, don’t be surprised to see Jones commit early in the process. Wyatt has been all over the silky smooth wideout and Jones is enamored with playing in the Boise system as he compares favorably to Bronco pass-catcher Austin Pettis in size and style. We’re pretty certain the staff feels like Jones will be one of the first committed 10.
Malcom Brown. Defensive Tackle. Brenham. Brown is the best defensive tackle in the state and he’s coveted by every school including the Longhorns. With Texas A&M’s recent success in Brenham it’s easy to feel the Aggies are overwhelming favorites at this point, but we’ve been told that Bo Davis has been huge in helping Texas close the gap, taking the opportunity to get at Brown during the Brandon Alexander recruitment. Don’t expect a commitment from the big DT, but don’t be surprised if he leaves Austin with the Aggies and Longhorns neck and neck.
Paul Boyette, Defensive tackle. With Bo Davis being the recruiting witch that he is, I think Boyette falls whenever we want him to fall. Magee and Brown are the dream duo at tackle, so I suspect we’ll let things play out with that pair before we start offering Boyettes and Ezzels. If Boyette gets offered, then you know some DT’s already on campus are spending more time at Gatti’s buffet than with Bennie Wylie.
Johnathan Gray. Running back. Aledo. Many folks including the ones that write for this blog have Gray as the best back in the state right now. Gray was all about the Longhorns going into last season, but he soured on the Horns as the season wore on. Who can blame him? Now we’re hearing that Gray has come full circle and favors the Horns over in state teams like TCU and Texas Tech, but out of state remains a real possibility especially if the Horns pick up an early commitment from Trey Williams. While the Horns would love to have Gray and Williams in the fold, there’s very little chance of that actually happening.
Trey Williams. Running Back. Spring DeKaney. Williams is 1b if John Gray is 1a and if you don’t believe me ask Major Applewhite. Texas is going to offer Williams on Feb. 13 and there’s a real chance that Williams falls right there and then. Again, they’ll try to sell him on playing with Gray but it’s doubtful either young man wants that scenario with Malcolm Brown already on campus. However, Texas does have the best collection of pitch men anywhere in college football so I suppose it’s a possibility.
Thomas Johnson. Wideout. Dallas Skyline. Johnson is an absolute burner who would complement what Cayleb Jones brings to the table. With fellow Skyliner Mike Davis already on campus, Darrell Wyatt’s job is a little easier when it comes to reeling in Johnson. For that reason we’re hearing that Johnson is a real possibility to be among one of those first 10 pledges.
Trevor Knight. Quarterback. San Antonio Reagan. If the Horns offer Knight it’s all over but the crying but I suspect Knight will be slow played while the Horns wait on the likes of Connor Brewer and Matt Davis doctor’s note. Five minutes in a meeting room with Harsin and Applewhite will turn this lifelong Horn fan at any point in the process so Texas can afford to wait.
Corey Coleman, Afolete. In years past Corey would have received a junior day offer as a formality after displaying his speed. However, these junior days aren’t your father’s junior days when it comes to the new staff. Corey’s workout will be but a single step in the evaluation process so don’t be surprised to see the Staff take a wait and see approach with raw talents like Coleman.
Zorrell Ezell. Defensive tackle. Humble. Again, I suspect the Staff just wants to evaluate Ezell and go from there. Magee and Brown are the crown jewels at the position, but if Bible and Cotton have eaten their way out of Austin, Ezell likely gets an offer at some point?just not a point in February.
Curtis Riser. Oline. DeSoto. I fully expect Curtis to be one of the commits that fall early in the process. He’s always liked the Horns and there’s playing time abound for a good young lineman considering the regime change and a dearth of talent already on campus. If Searels likes Riser up close and personal and thinks Riser fits into his philosophy, then Riser probably commits on the spot.
Peter Jinkens. Linebacker. Dallas Skyline. Jinkens is going to pass Diaz’s eyeball test and I suspect he picks up an offer if he shows the requisite interest in Texas. If he feels some Skyline love I suspect he commits as well.
Anthony Smith. Defensive Tackle. Spring Westfield. I think Smith will get a look down the road, but he’ll leave without an offer.
Alex De La Torre. Linebacker. Denton Ryan. With the departure of Tariq Allen and the uncertain status of Tevin Jackson, I think De La Torre gets his offer and commits.
Kennedy Estelle. Otackle. Pearland . He’s the must have tackle prospect in this class. Since he’s a tackle, the Longhorns must have him. He’ll get his offer and some begging and pleading from Stacey Searels to commit because ee need him to come in and play right away. I know no one expects an early commitment from the young man, but he’s going to get a recruiting pitch for the ages. Don’t be surprised if this Kennedy surprises everyone and takes the plunge.
Timothy Cole. Linebacker. Brenham. You can basically cut and paste the Malcom Brown blurb here. Texas is going to offer him and they’ll give him something to think about. A commitment is not going to happen unless he gets caught up in the moment.
On the second junior day, look for Connor Brewer to commit at some point just after the event.
As for ballers like Javonte Magee and Mario Edwards. We’re in very good shape with Magee and we’re a pretty significant second for Edwards. While Magee hasn’t officially accepted an invitation, people think he’s Texas’ to lose at this point. I expect Magee to commit if and when he attends a junior day event. Bo Davis will need to work his magic to keep Edwards in-state and away from Jimbo Fisher’s clutches. If Davis can pull that off, he needs a raise.
Finally, on to something else we’ve heard. Kendall Sanders the cornerback out of Athens should get his invite to junior day because he’s the top corner in state. And we hear he’ll commit if offered. If we don’t invite him and offer him we’re idiots. He’s that good, and we badly need a pure cover corner asap. If we don’t make this right, here’s some inspirational words about that.
So as we said before, our staff expects to have 10 commits by the end of junior days. In case you’re scoring at home, here are the 10 commits I think we’ll get based on rumor, speculation, and gut feeling: Connor Brewer, Trey Williams, Curtis Riser, Cayleb Jones, Thomas Johnson, Kennedy Estelle, Javonte Magee, Alex De La Torre, Peter Jinkens, and Kendall Sanders.
That’s what we hear, think, and feel at this point in the 2012 process. Some good names should go down soon with significantly fewer reaches which is good news for everyone. Why grab a marginal prospect in February when you can grab him in October. It’s recruiting, and this staff is going to work at it year ’round instead of mailing it in for months out of the year. It’s a welcomed change.
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I’ll say this about Jinkens: Texas really misplayed its hand with him and lost track of him for a while last season.
If they can actually get him to commit to Texas at a junior day…then the staff they hired really has it going on.
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Tarp if you wouldnt mind, could you address the following (mis)information from the article?
1. Is tu really that close to us on Brown and Cole?
2. Trey Williams has a high probability of committing if offerred by tu?
Anything else strike you as strange? Seems to go against the general sentiment around here during the last few months.
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Originally posted by d-2guidon08:
Tarp if you wouldnt mind, could you address the following (mis)information from the article?
1. Is tu really that close to us on Brown and Cole?
2. Trey Williams has a high probability of committing if offerred by tu?
Anything else strike you as strange? Seems to go against the general sentiment around here during the last few months.
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1. As with Alexander, Texas probably has too much ground to make up with Cole and Brown. They blew it last fall by not staying in touch with them like they should have. However, as with Alexander, they will make it closer than it SHOULD be.
2. In talking to him, I’ve never gotten any indication that he’s close to committing to anyone. A&M would probably like to lock him down too but he wants to go through the process.
The one thing Texas has been sucessful at over the years is getting kids to their junior days and then getting committments out of those who weren’t really planning to do anything. Williams could fall into that category.
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Dear God this place would be unbearable if we lost Jinkens and/or Williams to them this early…
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Losing Williams or Jinkens this early would really be a gauntlet thrown down in A&M’s face.
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Do you view that as a possibility Tarp?
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I’m never going to say never, Nick.
They have a way of getting guys to commit that look like long shots going in….
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Jonathan Gray and Trey Williams to commit at the same time? Not happening.
A&M has been in on Malcolm Brown and Tim Cole longer than this staff has known their names.
This is delusional arrogance.
A&M – Class of ’76! — “All of you who think you know it all are starting piss off those of us who do.”
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A committment out of Jinkens or Williams means that it’s business for usual at Texas in a year when things were supposed to be different due to a down year and coaching turnover…
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Knowing our luck with recruiting this improbability will happen.
Just like Clayton Williams said, you just have to lie back and enjoy it.
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They’re moving faster as far as getting committments at their junior days than anyone thought possible to begin with.
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this is concerning. thank you though tarp.
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That has more to do with the fact that they are texas.
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This is why Sherm has to learn to play the game…being Mr. Nice guy means you finish last.
Put some pressure on the kids, show them that an offer from A&M means something and won’t be around all year if they choose to ignore it.
It won’t work on all the kids, but it will work on some of them.
If A&M is underestimating Mac in recruiting, then this recruiting season could be another very long one for the Ags.
He hired ace recruiters….it’s a staff chalk full of them….A&M has 1.
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They obviously haven’t talked to Green and Bellard.
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Originally posted by Aggie76:
Jonathan Gray and Trey Williams to commit at the same time? Not happening.
A&M has been in on Malcolm Brown and Tim Cole longer than this staff has known their names.
This is delusional arrogance.
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Gray’s not going to commit any time soon.
I don’t think Williams is either. If he does, someone’s a really elite recruiter.
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I just don’t see how any elite running back would want to play for them after:
A) Their running game shit the bed the last 3 years.
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B) They just took Malcolm Brown and have been promising him the world as far as carries.
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I just can’t believe any top flight RB would commit to them on the spot with Malcolm Brown a year ahead of them and their incredibly crappy running game. On top of that, it’s a new OC.
If they do get Williams or Gray, I will really think $$$$ is involved. There’s no reason for either of them to commit to them this soon. It doesn’t sound like either are lifelong horn fans and it seems both are very open to finding a school that is a good fit for them.
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Not to mention their OL is horrible.
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you all are forgetting the fact that recruitocosm is horseshit. total horseshit. he’s no more of an insider than i am.
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I’ve seen Mack do this enough year after year that I’ll be surprised if most of those guys don’t commit. I won’t believe anything has changed until we get to March 1 and Texas has 20 offers out and only a handfull of commits.
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Originally posted by Eutychus:
I’ve seen Mack do this enough year after year that I’ll be surprised if most of those guys don’t commit. I won’t believe anything has changed until we get to March 1 and Texas has 20 offers out and only a handfull of commits.
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I think a lot of guys will commit. Too many want to be horns. But assuming the Brenham guys and Gray and Williams will commit if pressed by Mack will be a major shock to me.
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neither Williams nor Gray is committing to tu anytime soon
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Tarp,
Will they round everyone up in a room like they always do and put the hard press on them to commit or will they go with new tactics since it is so much of a new staff?
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I guess we will just have to wait and see. I’d hate to lose the skyline guys, but things happen and Mack is perhaps the best closer out there-esp with in-state guys. I’m curious if they are planning on taking multiple QBs because if they aren’t we should get one of the top 3. Considering how poorly they’ve developed their RBs and that Brown is supposed to be the best guy out there, I’d be surprised if Williams and Gray both commit there. I didn’t think Magee, Estelle, or the skyline guys were that high on them.
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Never doubt those guys ability to sell “crap” to high school players.
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Interesting that Paul Boyette changed his education status on Facebook to tu. That one is a done deal. Next!!!
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“Texas does have the best collection of pitchmen anywhere in College Football”
Are they talking about Mack and his wife specifically? I mean this statement has been true the last decade but they’ve got an entirely new staff now, not sure how they really know what they got at this point.
One more thing, if we can’t get one of the top RB’s committed this year it would be a large shame. We’re going to have one of the top O-lines in the country over the next 3 years, got to sell it bigtime.
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It’s arrogant on our part to think that tu won’t repeat their recruiting success this year. After watching them execute on the recruiting trail year after year and get early commitments from the players who say they “Love” A&M, you’re drinking Kool-Aid to think that a loss to LSU in the Cotton Bowl changed things in our favor.
In recruiting, we’re fighting an uphill battle. They switched out their coaches, but Mack remains the deadly constant.
I fully expect them to get theirs with the hope tha recruiting falls off a smidge…..which means we get one maybe two players (two seems like stretch) that would normally go to them, but commit to us.
Keep in mind, this is the early recruiting battle….we fair a much better chance (okay, not much better, but better) with the late recruiting battle which is how we beat them for Alexander.
Don’t set yourself up for a meltdown like with what happened last year when guys said they loved the Aggies for months, then promptly high fived and committed to Texas on their first Junior day.
Brace yourself.
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cheeky is right. We can’t expect last yr to wipe out the past decade. That’s why pushing the 2nd tier guys and loading up on Louisiana guys up front is more effective. I don’t have any illusions that we are going to miss out on guys who loved their time here. For all the crap we give the mods on here, they have done a good job at tempering expectations. Losing Boyette doesn’t seem to be a big deal to me. Losing out on Dallas area guys to tu doesn’t bother me because we don’t beat them for those guys anyways. If we are beating them head to head for guys, they are in the houston gulf coast area. Losing batles with okies is what bothers me more than anything that and their piss ant little brothers, the fighting pickens.
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Since when is Magee a sure fire commit to them if offered? I thought we led by a mile and he had a great relationship with Williams?
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The tsips had 13 commits after their first junior day last year and 17 commits by the end of feb; i think we had one last year. This year we have 5 and they will be excited with ten for February. It appears we are making up ground. What do you think?
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Originally posted by rjdulaney:
The tsips had 13 commits after their first junior day last year and 17 commits by the end of feb; i think we had one last year. This year we have 5 and they will be excited with ten for February. It appears we are making up ground. What do you think?
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I think we’re doing better. I also think we need to see what happens with the sips and go from there.
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Texas will always get theirs. We as Aggies need to just deal with that. The problem is we should be showing our option B’s a lot of love so that when our option A commits to sips we can get option B instead of having pissed off option B and C and then getting stuck with option D.
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A premature meltdown. Good reading, we get to do it again next week.
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Originally posted by CheekySchneider:
It’s arrogant on our part to think that tu won’t repeat their recruiting success this year. After watching them execute on the recruiting trail year after year and get early commitments from the players who say they “Love” A&M, you’re drinking Kool-Aid to think that a loss to LSU in the Cotton Bowl changed things in our favor.
In recruiting, we’re fighting an uphill battle. They switched out their coaches, but Mack remains the deadly constant.
I fully expect them to get theirs with the hope tha recruiting falls off a smidge…..which means we get one maybe two players (two seems like stretch) that would normally go to them, but commit to us.
Keep in mind, this is the early recruiting battle….we fair a much better chance (okay, not much better, but better) with the late recruiting battle which is how we beat them for Alexander.
Don’t set yourself up for a meltdown like with what happened last year when guys said they loved the Aggies for months, then promptly high fived and committed to Texas on their first Junior day.
Brace yourself.
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i brace myself every year for this
“This is really going to be an exciting era for Texas A&M University,” said A&M athletics director Bill Byrne. That was at Dennis Franchione’s introductory press conference, which led to a regime that posted a 32-29 record. “He is the person to take Texas A&M football where we all want it to go and that is to win national championships. I think he is a perfect fit for us,” Byrne said. That was at Sherman’s introductory press conference, which led to a 25-25 record.
Big Ern said:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:49 am
Claus,
Yeah, Smythe’s status is blowing up. All indications early on were that it would be a UT-Stanford battle. Not so sure anymore. He is a top 5% kid and his father is a doctor – so apparently academics are going to be a big part of this story. He is friends with David Ash – so I am sure that won’t hurt us. I think he ends up at UT, but I think it is going to be a longer recruitment than most had hoped for.
prehist51 said:
February 10th, 2012 at 11:54 am
After looking at the Horn’s roster and depth chart, I can find about 9 scholarship guys that are not ever going to be big contributors. From a total business approach you send these guys packing or put them on scholastic or medical scholarships.
From an integrity and moral point of view you keep all of them, maybe encouraging a couple of the sophomores to transfer to a school where they would have a chance to play.
I see nothing wrong informing guys that have been around for two years and haven’t progressed that they will ride the pine for the rest of their career at Texas. First, I think those guys would appreciate the honesty and second, some may want to take the opportunity to transfer to a school where they can play.
Mack’s modus operandi has been to play a lot of players in games. If you are entering your Jr. year and haven’t seen the field yet, or your only playing time has come on a special team in a blowout game, you may want to re-access your chances of ever being a player for Texas.
Possibly Texas has turned a corner with the new coaches and will not keep the deadwood around for 4 years.
hey said:
February 10th, 2012 at 1:05 pm
i just had a look around bon and then bc and felt like i was going from a buick showroom to one for pontiacs.
why don’t you guys just merge? you’re covering the same territory and now you even look alike.
Texastough said:
February 10th, 2012 at 2:56 pm
“i just had a look around bon and then bc and felt like i was going from a buick showroom to one for pontiacs.
why don’t you guys just merge? you’re covering the same territory and now you even look alike.”
Because the BC writers are much better and the content is much more diverse, funny, and interesting. But if you just go to blogs to look at the pretty colors and formatting, sure just pick either one and roll with it.
hey said:
February 10th, 2012 at 5:59 pm
i think you are seriously underestimating the bon crew. they are first rate, too, and the two groups have cooperated for years, now. they have been under the same umbrella for some time, and i’m not sure they aren’t occupying the same gore.
Texastough said:
February 10th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
I should have clarified that – I do like BON and I go there almost daily. They provide good info and some good analysis. I just think BC is a lot more fun to read, and like the random stuff they cover in addition to nailing stuff about the horns.
goldenbohls said:
February 10th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
@Mack – that was funny. Interesting how some get it. some are clueless, and some are just delusional.
HornChamps said:
February 11th, 2012 at 11:20 am
Way too many Texas fans are way too obsessed with Aggie! While many of you claim they aren’t a rival, yet you go on and on about a team that has left the Big-XII. They are gone. Act accordingly.
Simkin said:
February 11th, 2012 at 11:48 am
@HornChamps
Here’s a newsflash for you. Even though aggy now plays in the SEC SEC there still trying to compete for the same recriuts the Horns are in on. That, as far as I’m concerned, is reason enough to follow them somewhat.
Well that and the fact that aggy misery in all its facets has always been highly enjoyable.
Paul said:
February 11th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Kerrick Huggins committed to the Ags today, though I believe he was more or less a backup plan at DT for the Horns. Good pickup for the Ags as Mack really took us behind the woodshed on the DL in the ’12 class. Gives us two early Top 250 DT commits. So my question is, as it pertains to the Horns, who are the biggest targets at DT this year still on the board? You have Darius James and A’Shawn Robinson, who are either DT or OT depending on the scouting service, and Vincent Taylor and Justin Manning, who are not all that likely to shut it down early. Manning is the prize, IMO, but that is going to be a hard fought head to head with ole Bob.
Mysterious Package said:
February 12th, 2012 at 3:24 am
Half this class needs to come from OOS.
EchoLB said:
February 12th, 2012 at 4:25 am
Well, after cleaning up in 2012, the Horns only really need 1 DT (2max) in this class.
I’d say Manning tops the board for UT and thankfully we’re in good shape there with coach Wyatt knowing the family from his OU days having recruited DeMarcus Granger. Unfortunately, Manning won’t be an early commit, so we need a back-up plan here.
I’ve heard good things about 2011 DT Quincy Russell who went to Juco after not qualifying. He’s making the grades needed now, so maybe they’re still in contact with him and he could come back for 2013.
Last, it’s too early to give up on Golden. M. Brown was considered a heavy aggy lean a year ago and look how his recruitment played out. If they like Golden and/or get a negative vibe from Manning they have to at least inquire his interest.
As for Vincent Taylor, he’ll probably commit to Tech soon.
STLaw said:
February 12th, 2012 at 9:17 am
Sounds like Morgan might be headed to Arky…sad day
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