Judgment Day: Update On Who’s In and Who’s Out

So here’s the update as promised. We’re going to be a bit more specific, but keep in mind the details are somewhat fluid, but the overall story, one we’ve been out in front of from jump-street, is the same. Greg Davis is set to retire/reassigned and a whole host of assistants will turnover as well. Here’s what we published five days ago in case you missed it.

Mack has recently had candid talks with both of his coordinators about perhaps being time to bring in some new blood to shake things up. Our source claims there was always a belief by members of the staff that both Mack and Greg Davis would retire in the next two seasons, so it’s a conversation all parties involved saw coming, but perhaps not this soon.
We were told that Mack is very cognizant of his legacy on the 40 and this season has shocked him knowing that it likely tarnishes what he’s built. Leaving it as is while risking a similar season next year is a real possibility and Mack knows it. And So does Greg Davis.
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The confirmation of Friday’s comments comes from someone “close” to one of the position coaches who will probably be retained when the dust settles. He claims that he thinks Mack is worried about perception and the main reason is recruiting. “We’re losing momentum on the recruiting front and in a big way which really pisses off Mack. Mack always has measured the state of the program, in large part, based on recruiting vibe.” And as this person put it, “the buzz just isn’t there.”
He went on to say that for that reason, “If any changes are made, look for a big splash hire to get that buzz back.”
When we asked, what that meant we were told, “It’s gotta be a guy that can come in and turn this thing around quickly. He has to hit the ground running because Mack doesn’t have the time to rebuild.”

The candid talks have now given way to actual action and specifics as it relates to who’s staying and going. As we told you in our last update, Greg Davis has come to grips with giving up the reins as Offensive Coordinator. If what we hear is true that hasn’t changed. As for the other staff turnover we’ve heard Coach Tolleson will retire along with Coach Macwhorter. Bobby Kennedy, as was first reported here, has other issues to deal with so he will be asked to find other employment. There is a possibility that Chambers leaves as well, but our source wasn’t definitive. The other 4 sounded like they were set in stone.

As for Coach Madden, Will Muschamp has stated he wants to move in another direction here, but Mack Brown isn’t comfortable with letting his entire inner circle go and he’d like to retain Mad Dog until he retires. That situation is fluid because other sources claim Mad Dog is gone too.

Now to the action plan. We were the first to tell you that Muschamp and Brown want to make a big splash hire on the offensive side of the ball because Brown doesn’t have the time to rebuild. That means there won’t be an internal promotion to OC. Muschamp has said publicly that he wants a pro style attack, but privately he’s said he just wants an offense that puts points on the board. Feelers have already been put out to several OC’s and it’s been speculated that Coach Brown is intrigued by what Dana Holgerson has done in such a short time. If you were to handicap it, Holgerson would be at the top of the odds list at the sports book.

Additionally, as we reported days ago, Brown is very sensitive to how all of this affects recruiting so expect these changes to move quickly to give the new coaches a chance to build relationships with current commits and 2012 kids. Again, Brown is not looking to rebuild, but reload.

In terms of Will’s input, he’s on the same page as Mack Brown, and Mack is giving Will as much input on these decisions as he’d like. Based on that, expect Will to go after young assistants that “bust their ass” on the recruiting trail. In other words, everyone pulls their weight and is accountable for who they bring in. According to our source, these are Muschamp’s words.

Reassignments and retirements will happen after the Texas Football Banquet we’re hearing but could move quicker if circumstances are right with replacements we’ve targeted.

We’re currently working on getting confirmation on another side of this story but that’s all we’ve got for now.

Article Tags:

Dana Holgerson, Greg Davis, Mack Brown, Major Applewhite, Texas Coaching Changes, Texas Football, Will Muschamp

211 Responses

Von Kaiser said:

November 26th, 2010 at 11:46 am

excellent, thanks. Dana H. is at the top of my wishlist too.

would an OC jump that easily within conference, or, even within the division? Is there any kind of “ettiquite” to follow?

not that I personally care, I want the guy up in the booth yesterday, but still, would that have any affect on his descision to come aboard, if offered?
acropora said:

November 26th, 2010 at 11:55 am

wow…this would be great news if true. i think md and gd are the two that need to go if no one else does. mt has actually done a great job in the past and i’m not sure the dt play this year is totally on him.
AndrewfromUTLaw2 said:

November 26th, 2010 at 11:57 am

How do we get Holgersson from Okie State (or GM from Auburn) in time to really help recruiting when They will be playing in a bowl game in early January?

And won’t T.Boone have a few million to say about getting DH?

I hope it happens. Just saying. And wouldn’t the new OC have a say in the OL coach?

We may be waiting a while.
jc25 said:

November 26th, 2010 at 12:01 pm

Post clearly needs an “america, fuck yeah” tag. Great black Friday news if it comes to fruition. Thanks for the scoop.
Dude said:

November 26th, 2010 at 12:05 pm

Appreciate the work, JS.
uthookem said:

November 26th, 2010 at 12:16 pm

Thank you, Jesus.

This was expected based on your previous reports, and I am happy that there have not been drastic changes.

I like Mack, and I want him to succeed because he (from the outside anyway) does things the right way and tries to make each kid a better person (see the 2005 Rose Bowl post game for an example). I’m sure parting with GD is the toughest thing (in his mind) he’ll ever do in his career, but he will be rewarded with the decision. I hope he will make a second tough decision and bring in a new S&C coach as well. After 2005, the hunger left this program…a 30+ year hiatus will do that.

Great coaching hires, fresh perspectives, and an injection of energy will help, especially in the bottom line, which is all this is really about in the long run.
Wyatt said:

November 26th, 2010 at 12:19 pm

Fingers crossed. Thanks JS.
Fellache Me said:

November 26th, 2010 at 12:25 pm

I also have an inside source on the coaching staff that has said there are whispers that the staff is not happy with Gilbert and that he is planning on transferring. Any truth to this? It makes me wonder since I haven’t heard any rumors like this until yesterday and this came directly from a staff member. I have been a supporter of Gilbert all season and attributed his bad play to a horrible offensive line, under achieving receivers and running backs, and an offensive coordinator that would have made Dan Marino look like shit. My eyes have been opened though after the FAggie game though, where he made some downright atrocious throws.
Blueshorn said:

November 26th, 2010 at 12:34 pm

Praise Jesus! I would ask Bobby Burton to comment, but I’m on his shit list for daring to suggest he’s not the only guy with a source.
Vanterminator said:

November 26th, 2010 at 12:35 pm

I hope the situation doesnt get too fluid from here, i.e. the decisions on the retires/fires stay.
As much as I trust in the Jesus, this still sounds like a Christmas miracle to me. Oh it would be a great Christmas gift if these changes were to go through.

As much as I love Mack, I would love and respect him more if he goes through with these changes. As much as I or anyone else criticizes Mack, changing is hard, esp at his age and if he takes this step, it would show me that he really is a great coach because he would show the ability to make really tough decisions.

It also will show me that Mack aint going anywhere, which is fine with me, as long as he stays hungry for winning another NC.
Gateshorn said:

November 26th, 2010 at 12:58 pm

I also have a source…my brain. My brain tells me NO WAY IN HELL Mack parts with Greg Davis. If Greg can survive 200-2005 he will certainly survive this.

He should have been fired after the 12-0 game in 2004.
Jesus Shuttlesworth said:

November 26th, 2010 at 12:58 pm

Fellache, I hadn’t heard that. I’ve heard the Connor Wood to Stanford rumor.
SizzleChest said:

November 26th, 2010 at 1:07 pm

I generally trust Gerry Hamilton’s player evaluations and he is not a believer in Gilbert.

He has stated multiple times about how Gilbert just doesn’t have a feel for the position, basically that his development pathway is long and his ceiling is low. This has never been presented by him as absolving GD of blame as his position coach, but more that once they got Gilbert, they thought his weaknesses could be addressed and mostly fixed with coaching.

So, Fellache Me’s source saying this would not surprise me. A new OC would face the same challenges with Gilbert. Texas just can’t afford that kind of play from the QB position anymore and it has little to do with the argument that a dual threat QB would cure those ills. We could get a dual threat QB, but while that would solve some issues, it could create others and if that player doesn’t have a feel for the game either, it’s really a wash.

If this is true about implying to the Gilbert’s that Garrett move along, it certainly implies that the priorities about what is needed in a Texas QB are seriously getting re-examined.
Blueshorn said:

November 26th, 2010 at 1:10 pm

He should have been fired after the 12-0 game in 2004.

2003 Holiday Bowl vs. Washington State. That would have prevented the 2004 OU nightmare and we might have another MNC.
mike hunt said:

November 26th, 2010 at 1:16 pm

You guys are listening to a guy named fellache me. damn you guys are dense. See above.
Gateshorn said:

November 26th, 2010 at 1:19 pm

Good point Blueshorn. I forgot about that game. That man had no business coming back in 2004.
Blueshorn said:

November 26th, 2010 at 1:24 pm

A good case could be made for several other games before that, even. His incompetence has been evident for years and Mack was too dumb to deal with it. Chickens>roost and all that.
SizzleChest said:

November 26th, 2010 at 1:26 pm

So, JS perhaps the two have something to do with one another?
Jesus Shuttlesworth said:

November 26th, 2010 at 1:28 pm

sizzlechest???
Jesus Shuttlesworth said:

November 26th, 2010 at 1:30 pm

Ah just read your first post. I haven’t heard a peep about Gilbert transferring.
swhornfan said:

November 26th, 2010 at 1:31 pm

Beleive when I see it…………………Mack has said the right things all yr………blah blah blah but has not acted on any! Wasn’t the backup supposed to get playing time after what happened to Colt? Ask Case about that…………..I WILL GLADLY EAT CROW when GD is gone…………..if it happens NOW. As said by others he surivived befor and he will weather this becuase Mack is too loyal (to a fault).
SizzleChest said:

November 26th, 2010 at 1:35 pm

JS, fluid, imo.
Vanterminator said:

November 26th, 2010 at 1:38 pm

Jesus, any peep on transitional recruiting issues? Kids from 2011 and 2012 who have developed relationships with coaches, who do you think are likely to reopen their recruitment?

Problems with mass scale changes is mainly negative effects that are possible on recruitment. That is, obviously its almost impossible to bring a recruit who is absolutely new to us (probably too late in the game) yet the ones who are committed might want to look around based on changes in the ranks at Texas. OOS kids, I would think, would be the biggest concerns.
striker said:

November 26th, 2010 at 1:58 pm

Always good info from JS. So glad to hear that Mack will recruit from the outside to get new OC. That is a good decision. Would not worry about the 2011 recruits IF Mack makes the changes quickly so the recruits can become comfortable with the new coaches. Really think the concern of current recruits is being exageratted. Example.. USC.. with sanctions, HC leaving and new coaching regime they retained most of the players. Those that were lost were on the fence to begin with and were last day commitments to a program. They only recruit we have that seems questionable is Reed…. He should get on or off the fence. Confident that next year we will be talking about a BCS championship contender.
Jesus Shuttlesworth said:

November 26th, 2010 at 2:00 pm

Vant, actually hardly any transitional issues. Davis doesn’t recruit at all and Kennedy only has two recruits, one of which is a legacy. I suppose Onyegbule could look elsewhere, but why would he? If it’s going to happen it will happen on the Oline with Westerman, but that’s a long shot. Whoever we bring in as an OC gives us a better sales story to offensive recruits if Muschamp has a say–which he does.
striker said:

November 26th, 2010 at 2:01 pm

If USC can retain its 90 percent of its recruits with sanctions and a complete coaching change on both sides of the ball we shold retain 98 percent or better. Texas will compete for national championships next year and the years to follow. Unlike the USC scenario. Any transfers that take place could be good because then we just reload with talent.
Vanterminator said:

November 26th, 2010 at 2:07 pm

Thanks for the quick turnaround Jesus, now the wait begins till Dec 10 when the banquet is being help as per mackbrownfootball.
Love your updates…
TexasFan101 said:

November 26th, 2010 at 2:15 pm

Thanks for the update. I’ll be waiting for the announcements sometime in December.
fbomb said:

November 26th, 2010 at 2:20 pm

2 questions / comments on this thread (I ask out of ignorance – nor trying to be a smart ass)

1. do we even have any OOS recruits in the 11 and 12 classes? I thought we only had about 5 in the past 4-5 years.

2. do we really believe this is a national championship contending team next year? If we do get the housecleaning we all want, I can’t see us going undefeated with (presumably) new coaches and new Offensive scheme. I’m thinking of srr50′s recent post (which I’ve been worried about all year) — we’re getting worse (this year) while the rest of the big Xii is getting better…
beowulf said:

November 26th, 2010 at 2:26 pm

Some of you are making this too complicated. A hotshot OC with a a great scheme, game planning enthusiasm, and an ability to call plays and make game adjustments would have Texas in the B12 championship game. This year.
Fellache Me said:

November 26th, 2010 at 2:31 pm

Mike Hunt,
Although my recruitocosm name fellache me is ridiculous, I assure you that my inside source is not. I went to high school with the kid on the coaching staff. I just raised the question about Gilbert transferring since I have not yet heard anything about this yet on recruitocosm.
Petey said:

November 26th, 2010 at 2:34 pm

Why would Gilbert or Wood transfer?

I don’t have inside sources, so I don’t have any real insight, but I don’t understand that one.
goosehorn said:

November 26th, 2010 at 2:39 pm

If Conner Wood were to transfer to Stanford, would he have to sit out another year given he redshirted this year?
Fellache Me said:

November 26th, 2010 at 2:39 pm

Fbomb,
1. We do have Rasco on our radar for 2011, but I don’t know how that will pan out after a 5-7 season.
2. Just look at what OK State has done this year with an inventive guy like Holgerson! He has taken a decent/good talent pool and turned them into a BCS contender. At the beginning of the year I believe I predicted they would be 4-8, 5-7ish. That just goes to show you how important coaching is. Imagine what that guy could do with the BEST talent at Texas.
GishMD said:

November 26th, 2010 at 2:42 pm

Thanks JS. Appreciate the info. Like Mana from heaven. Personally, I feel GD and fat dog aret
The most important pieces to rid ourselves of. We need attitude, not inept schemes and Tanner stage 1 bodies for our lineman in the trenches. Look at how physically developed Alabama’s front four and OL look today. Night and day.
The Master Cylinder said:

November 26th, 2010 at 3:14 pm

Strikes me as odd that the Gatoraide offensive player of the year in 2008 for the entire nation, who everybody in the country wanted, suddenly has no upside.

I ain’t buyin’ it.

I peg his lack of development on GD, whose out has been “but he’s a great QB coach.” Gilbert has the tools as he’s shown in flashes all season.

He just needs somebody who can actually coach him and deploy the talent around him. Both sides of the ball are flanked by consensus 4 and 5 star talent w/a few 3 stars sprinkled in. No team other than OU had even close to the talent Texas has – including consensus recruiting numbers over the last 5 years.

We just need coaching leadership that will develop the talent on hand, coach instead of coddle and hold each player accountable for his actions.

GG under Dana H will flourish as will our entire offense and, then team as a consequence.

If JS type changes are indeed coming down we will be in the Big 12 title game with the kids on hand.
Con Aer Lingus said:

November 26th, 2010 at 3:16 pm

I tell only truths.
Jon said:

November 26th, 2010 at 3:59 pm

Would a guy like Dana Holgerson be able to come in and maximize the talent on campus that doesn’t fit into a spread offense? I want to win as soon as possible, but it seems to be this program has recruited recently an offense geared towards a pro-style / power game, would this mesh with Holgerson’s spread wide philosophy?
SizzleChest said:

November 26th, 2010 at 3:59 pm

Master Cylinder -

Transfer talk is all the rage during offseasons before and after Spring Ball. We’re accustomed to it being of the Phil Payne (looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane, can’t find a place) or the GJ Kinne variety.

This year is very different. The foundations are shaking like a 7.5 earthquake. I’m not dismissing any of this stuff for reasons you’ve laid out. Under the Mack Brown regime, we haven’t seen the kind of change we’re about to see (forget 2003).

Texas football is a much bigger monster than it was 7 years ago – a lot more is on the line. It’s all about the Benjamins. The monster needs to be fed and will spit out what it doesn’t like more readily than ever before. I realize it’s in Mack’s hands, but the fact remains, and it looks like a lot of shit is on the table.
Stuart "Stu" Padasso said:

November 26th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

Made up names are for losers.
gardzilla said:

November 26th, 2010 at 4:24 pm

Fellache’s point #2 is spot-on. I know basketball differs greaty from football in terms of individual players creating immediate impact, look at what happened at Kentucky once Calipari took over. Kentucky, like Texas, has top notch facilities, incredibly vast, wealthy, and rabid fanbases and reputation as one of the elite progarms in all the land. Please spare me the “Coach Cal cheats” chorus (full disclosure, been a uk bball fan since and by birth) because most of us here would welcome Gus M. with open arms after Auburn burns to the ground. Cal took over a program that had stalled under complacent nice-guy Tubby Smith. Tubby was content to make the ncaa tournament every year, which at Kentucky is akin to owning a Ferrari and settling for beating a string of factory equipped honda’s. Tubby moved on, Cal moved in and within weeks recruits were decommiting and signing with Kentucky en masse. Bring a guy with some heat, toss him the keys to the burnt orange Ferrari and watch the heads turn.
magnusbleuveigner said:

November 26th, 2010 at 4:27 pm

Sizzle, are you referring to GH’s evals of Gilbert while he was in high school or now? I don’t recall him ever typing anything negative about him while at LT. Sounds a little hindsight revisiony to me. And you’re right, GH’s evals are usually pretty strong.
SizzleChest said:

November 26th, 2010 at 4:51 pm

Magnus -

I’m referring to his more current musings, I.e. this season.

GH seemed rather resolute in his comments today in particular. Burton’s saying some of the same things, but I don’t trust his opinions as much as Gerry.

Shit, who didn’t think Gilbert was going to be a star after watching him at L.T. In some cases, these guys don’t extend their talent and develop further. Has GD bungled GGs development? Sure, but how much of that is Gilbert not having a basic feel for the game?
Jesus Shuttlesworth said:

November 26th, 2010 at 4:55 pm

You need an off schedule QB to thrive in an off-schedule offense. It’s tough to evaluate ceilings and career pathing in Greg Davis’ “system”. There’s a reason no one’s beating down our door trying to get at Greg Davis.
SlickStreet said:

November 26th, 2010 at 5:31 pm

hard to believe GG is contemplating transferring when he got so much of the PT that McCoy”s shirt was needlessly burned.

Some think a turnaround could take multiple years, but the Okie State example was noted. Plus, on the flip side, who’d have thought we’d go 5-7 after almost winning the national title?
TKO said:

November 26th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

A week or so ago, I posted on BC that I thought Bobby Kennedy might survive the coaching purge because he has a reputation as a decent recruiter and because Mack would be reluctant to gut all of his offensive position coaches. With some sure-fire coaching changes above him, I figured Kennedy might hang on.

When I wrote that, I wasn’t aware he’d been implicated in off the field activities (of the Cleve Bryant type, I’ve now heard). If true, he’s obviously out the door.

Guess I must have missed that gospel printed here, Jesus.
Jesus claims it is a done deal… said:

November 26th, 2010 at 5:55 pm

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bigdukesix said:

November 26th, 2010 at 6:16 pm

I think Kennedy was the best recruiting assistant we had before Muschamp and Applewhite came in, which is a bit like being the prettiest five dollar hooker on the street corner. He’s not so good that we couldn’t reasonably hope bring in a better recruiter to replace him. A lot of his decisions on who to offer and who not to offer have been highly questionable, and IIRC he was one of the assistants who Scipio pegged as not working nearly hard enough in recruiting.
Blueshorn said:

November 26th, 2010 at 6:42 pm

hard to believe GG is contemplating transferring when he got so much of the PT that McCoy”s shirt was needlessly burned.

It’s not hard at all for me to believe that Mack-Davis has totally mismanaged the QB situation. They’ve made a career of it.
SizzleChest said:

November 26th, 2010 at 7:26 pm

JS, I hear you but my question about Gilbert is is he basically ruined? He’s got two years. Can we risk seeing if he can turn it around, or should the risk be with Wood? If Wood transfers and we have McCoy and Ash, we’re stuck with Gilbert. I don’t give a shit what anyone says about McCoy – he’s not his brother and Ash won’t be ready barring a miracle.

The ultimate question is, even with a talented OC, new OL coach, Malcolm Brown, and a number of talented but unseasoned receivers, can we average 30 points a game with Gilbert back there? I have my doubts.
Jesus Shuttlesworth said:

November 26th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

Cody Hodges was solid for a year and he didn’t have half the physical talent of Gilbert and certainly not the skins on the wall in high school. I’m willing to give GG a shot in a bona fide offense before I deem him a bust.

Remember, this is the same system that got us shut out vs. OU in with Vince Young, Cedric Benson, Bo Scaife, David Thomas, among others.
hopefulhorn said:

November 26th, 2010 at 7:33 pm

“It’s tough to evaluate ceilings and career pathing in Greg Davis’ “system”.”

This nails it for Gilbert and a number of others. With a decent OC I think this year’s team wins 8 or 9 games. An offensive system that puts our players in positions to succeed enough to build confidence makes a world of difference.
The Master Cylinder said:

November 26th, 2010 at 7:44 pm

Well alllrightythen…

I’ll take your word for it Mangus, et al.

If GG’s transferring materializes, does the staff or whoever the powers that be or soon will be think Case is ready? Or Connor? Or could David Ash be all that or at least enough of it by next fall? Or do we comb the union dangling the carrot of potential QB starterdom for The University? Or what’s the plan?

These only scratch the surface of the legion of questions to consider now that Texas football has entered the Mutara Nebula.

Here’s to hoping/believing that MackWill can maneuver us safely out to the universe which Texas football belongs.
Blueshorn said:

November 26th, 2010 at 7:48 pm

Will Ash graduate early and be here in the spring?
SizzleChest said:

November 26th, 2010 at 7:56 pm

If there is not a competition for the QB position in the Spring, what would you do if you were Connor Wood? I don’t think the dude wants to check out, but if Gilbert keeps his job without any competition, you would have to wonder.
Bevo said:

November 26th, 2010 at 8:01 pm

I have it on VERY good authority that the Wood rumor is total bs. Just wanted to pass it on.
Bevo said:

November 26th, 2010 at 8:10 pm

Blueshorn,
yes, I understand Ash is coming in January.
Spawn of Cthulhu said:

November 26th, 2010 at 8:14 pm

Report on Shaggy that we need a new S&C coach. Apparently the Jesse and Craig video sessions last night weren’t enough to keep him around.
Dschultz said:

November 26th, 2010 at 8:15 pm

I kinda hope that GD is asked to resign just so that all of you haters recognize, next season, that he wasn’t the problem.
Blueshorn said:

November 26th, 2010 at 8:28 pm

Spawn, OB is reporting Maddog is out.
Dschultz said:

November 26th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

Cannot believe that Nack is allowing the Muschamp power-play to occur.
Jones said:

November 26th, 2010 at 8:31 pm

There’s a little left on my chin.
Dschultz said:

November 26th, 2010 at 8:37 pm

I largely agree with Jones, although your point is delivered rather harshly.
Lakavage said:

November 26th, 2010 at 8:37 pm

Nice edit on the Ball Hawk sweater by the way. Sneaky…
Dschultz said:

November 26th, 2010 at 8:39 pm

Muschamp is beginning to remind me of Dick Chaney.
SizzleChest said:

November 26th, 2010 at 9:09 pm

Jones, have you tasted cum? I mean besides your own?
Bartoncreek said:

November 26th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

Clever edit. Well done.
SizzleChest said:

November 26th, 2010 at 9:32 pm

The edit on the Muschamp photo – clever.

Jones’ edit of his post – not so clever.
Bartoncreek said:

November 26th, 2010 at 9:47 pm

I hate to get greedy, but are there any rumors about the possibility of hiring a ST coach? No more GDGD, McWhorter, Kennedy, Chambers and a ST coach? That would officially make this the 4th best season in Texas football history.
Sailor Ripley said:

November 26th, 2010 at 9:50 pm

ACE on the PhotoShop as usual.
Vasherized said:

November 26th, 2010 at 10:15 pm

ACE is the highest paid member of the staff for good reason.
Ron Baxter said:

November 26th, 2010 at 11:32 pm

I’m from Missouri on this one, “show me” when it happens and then I will believe it.

I don’t think Greg Davis is going anywhere. He says so. Mack Brown gives absolutely no indication that he would fire the best man from his wedding. Belmont arranges the “We love Greg Davis because he’s so great” charade by the ESPN crew with a special feature on our overrated S&C coach thrown in for good measure. Mack Brown leads off every post-loss press conference with how the defense did not generate the “three turnovers we need” knowing full well rarely do more than one or two team average three takeaways in any given season and, unless I am mistaken, none of his teams has ever do so. He overlooks how our offense rarely scores more than a single TD in the first half, has a terrible time scoring TDs once inside the 20 and is generally inept.

The best we can hope for is that our worthless WR coach will be sent packing, perhaps not because Mack thinks that he is a terrible coach, but because he was in the same loveboat as Cleve Bryant. Mack thinks recruiting is everything and by most accounts Kennedy is one of the better recruiters on staff. Getting HS studs on campus may prove more important to Mack than coaching the players.

McWhorter will probably retire, something that has been discussed for a year or more. He was a great improvement over Nunez. McWhorter was a great OL coach before he came to Texas. He didn’t become a bum simply by changing locations. It is not clear to me how much of his “plan” is directed by his boss, Greg Davis. Also, the ranks of his recruits were decimated the past three years by injury or illness (Allen and Nader), academic failures, transfers, racist remarks by a player who probably would have started this season. I’m not sure changing the OL coach will change the result.

Chambers might go because his TEs are flat out terrible, but again, Mack may keep Chambers for his purported recruiting skills.

A huge problem for Mack Brown is that if he cans half his staff, his recruiting goes into the shitter, where it is headed long term if he repeats this season. Unless MB brings in some young, firebrand replacements ASAP, Texas could suffer several decommits and the early commitment list for 2012 will be pretty slim or filled with 2 and 3 stars.

One fact that warrants some changes is that the Texas staff is pretty damn old, with Giles, Muschamp and Applewhite being the only “youngsters”. Texas needs a substantial energy infusion.

In my book, it is more likely that Muschamp is gone and Davis stays, with a token assistant change. I certainly hope that I am wrong.
nobis60 said:

November 27th, 2010 at 12:29 am

Dschultz –

Post less.
billu said:

November 27th, 2010 at 1:23 am

“A huge problem for Mack Brown is that if he cans half his staff, his recruiting goes into the shitter, where it is headed long term if he repeats this season. Unless MB brings in some young, firebrand replacements ASAP, Texas could suffer several decommits and the early commitment list for 2012 will be pretty slim or filled with 2 and 3 stars.”

I’m assuming that this is some kind of satire but I don’t get it.
RichUT said:

November 27th, 2010 at 7:56 am

i don’t understand people like Ron Baxter. This offense was an EPIC failure. This year is like any other year under Mack Brown. Our defense kept us in every game this year, but our offense was consistently sub par and showed NO signs of improvement over the year. He was never going to leave when we were averaging 40+ points per game.

As for the ESPN love fest, that seems like a pretty fantastic send off to me. You don’t spit on your best friend when he is on his way out the door. You send him out like a hero.

Combine that with the fact that Davis will almost certainly not be fired, but will instead transition to some kind of cushy administrative position and it all starts to make sense.
striker said:

November 27th, 2010 at 8:16 am

JS
Would you be able to provide the top two targets for each position coach?
I really doubt that Dana Hogerson would leave after one year at OU State.
Do you have a wish list candidate and a true prospect that is on the radar?
As for the recruits…. well I think a lot of comments are being made in haste. Really think that if Mack decides quickly the recruits will be even more committed to the future.
YOUR THOUGHTS…
BOld prediction.. Next year we will be discussing how Texas went from a BCS champ team, losing season to a great turn around (2011) to a one or undefeated season next year.
Thanks
striker said:

November 27th, 2010 at 8:18 am

As for Applewhite.. He will become the QB coach and needs another 3-5 years before he is OC material. Need a splash with a recruited new OC that can put Applewhite under his wings for the future.
RichUT said:

November 27th, 2010 at 8:23 am

Sorry, but nobody turns down a job like Texas to stay at a dump like OSU. Holgerson is smart enough to realize that 2 years at Texas will lead to a primo job offer at a D1 school, assuming he is able to work the same kind of magic.

If he stays at OSU, he’ll have to follow more of a Sumlin career path, and take a 3rd tier D1 job to prove himself as a Head Coach. If he takes the Texas OC job, he’s looking at a legit job in a BCS conference.
striker said:

November 27th, 2010 at 8:48 am

RichUT
Thanks for the comment. Do you know of another great OC for Texas. Out of Big 12 conference teams. I would think Texas would target a OC in the SEC. I hope your right about Holgerson would view Texas in that view. I Holgerson was still at UH. Universitly of Houston then it would be more money with promotion. That is the only flaw in thought of getting Holgerson. What about the TCU OC or Boise OC??? Just a thought.. Trying to think of a great OC that views Texas as more than just prestige but a promotion that leaps the viewing for future HC positions. Thanks… Hope your right about Holgerson. Perhaps, Muschamp puts a call into Auburn and goes after their OC?
Wyatt said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:01 am

OSU to Texas is not a lateral move. I’ve seen this argument in a few different places, and its flat ass baffling. Just because two schools are in the same conference doesn’t mean that moving from one to the other is lateral. And given the fact that he is living in a hotel room, it doesn’t sound like he’s developed an attachment to Stillwater and its nightlife. Sounds more like a man ready to bolt town at a moment’s notice for the right opportunity.
SizzleChest said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:05 am

Apparently, Dana likes the nightlife. He likes to boogie.
Dschultz said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:12 am

Outside of this season, the Texas offense has scored alot of points. Someone above mentioned 40+/game. That seems about right to me. Just how many more points should we have averaged over the last 10 season? Perhaps 3 points, but no more. With those additional points, over the last 8 seasons, we would gave won a grand total of one more game (Kansas state 2006)…
nobis60 said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:24 am

On the surface, the nightlife thing should be an Austin advantage.

However, at the drop of a hat the Stillwater PD could find themselves expressing gratitude for the new T. Boone Pickens substation, whereas the Austin PD pops national championship-winning coaches with DUIs. A certain typeofman likes to carouse without much scrutiny.
Max Fischer said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:32 am

Outside of this season, the Texas offense has scored alot of points. Someone above mentioned 40+/game. That seems about right to me. Just how many more points should we have averaged over the last 10 season? Perhaps 3 points, but no more. With those additional points, over the last 8 seasons, we would gave won a grand total of one more game (Kansas state 2006)…

Yeah, we really crush directional Louisiana schools, Rice and UNT but it’s the lack of production since GD arrived against quality opposition that has the fan base fed up.
Dschultz said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:41 am

Is the new OC gonna make the receivers catch better or get open – that seems to be a Kennedy issue. Is the new OC gonna make the RBs faster or less injury-prone? Is the new OC gonna magically create a TE who can either block or catch – that seems like a Chambers issue. Is the new OC gonna stop the academic problems, racist remarks, and general apethy along the Oline – that seems like a McWhorter issue.
UT Longhorn said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:44 am

“Outside of this season, the Texas offense has scored alot of points. Someone above mentioned 40+/game. That seems about right to me. Just how many more points should we have averaged over the last 10 season? Perhaps 3 points, but no more. With those additional points, over the last 8 seasons, we would gave won a grand total of one more game (Kansas state 2006)…”

If you distilled the GD era down to this statistic (in order to use it as proof of GD’s competence and possibly even as a reason he should stay), then the recent history of Texas football, the gravity of the current situation, and the game of college football seem to be slightly beyond your level of comprehension.
owenh said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:45 am

@Dschultz stats are great but you can’t just take them for face value. I’m sure I don’t need to explain this but look at 2009 for a great example of Greg Davis’ performance.

(http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/team/_/stat/total/year/2009)

Season average: 39.3 ppg (wow that’s a lot of points!)

vs Oklahoma: 16 pts
vs Nebraska: 13 pts
vs Alabama: 21 pts

He does not produce against a defense with a pulse. He does not make in-game adjustments. He abandons the run. We have no running game. He can only have a serviceable offense with a running QB, yet we have recruited none. I don’t know what else to say.
Zombie Horn said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:48 am

“Outside of this season, the Texas offense has scored alot of points. Someone above mentioned 40+/game. That seems about right to me. Just how many more points should we have averaged over the last 10 season? Perhaps 3 points, but no more. With those additional points, over the last 8 seasons, we would gave won a grand total of one more game (Kansas state 2006)…”

No offense, but you’re an idiot. GD had two runner-up heisman winning future NFL starting QBs to overcome his inadequacies and that enabled the high point output. He also had players who on average were four star recruits and could simply out-talent other teams. But how great were our offenses when we didn’t have an all-world QB (Simms, GG)? We sucked more times than not. There are OCs coaching teams with a fraction of our talent (OSU/Boise/TCU) that have dynamic offenses. I’ll take an OC that can produce points without a VY/CM.
Cody said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:49 am

So what you’re asking is will the new OC demand accountability from the people working under him?
UT Longhorn said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:54 am

“Is the new OC gonna make the receivers catch better or get open – that seems to be a Kennedy issue. Is the new OC gonna make the RBs faster or less injury-prone? Is the new OC gonna magically create a TE who can either block or catch – that seems like a Chambers issue. Is the new OC gonna stop the academic problems, racist remarks, and general apethy along the Oline – that seems like a McWhorter issue.”

The short answer is yes.

Are you implying that ALL of these men are equally at fault yet GD is somehow immune to or above fault in this? At the very basic level, if what you are saying is true, then that makes GD at fault. Those men work under him as part of his offensive scheme and game plan. And in a lot of ways they can only do so much with what they are given. Do the position coaches get a free pass? Hell no, but it’s ridiculous to imply that everyone else on the staff is making GD look bad and that a new OC wouldn’t make things better. I would go so far as to say that even if we KEPT all of the position coaches and only got a new OC, our offense would me noticeably better next season.

Just like a team is a reflection of their coach, the offense is a reflection of the offensive coordinator. And we have one OFFENSIVE offensive coordinator.
Max Fischer said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:55 am

Play design will address most of what you brought up. Routes where our wr’s catch the ball not at a stand-still. RB’s will seem faster as they’re allowed to reach the second level unmolested. Blocking schemes where we drive off the ball and put a hat on a hat rather than running to a spot and then not doing a whole lot.

I’m pretty sure you’re just trying to play the role of contrarian. Stop.
Zombie Horn said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:57 am

“A certain type of man likes to carouse without much scrutiny.”

We’ll hire him a chauffeur for the couple years he’s here. He can get drunk all he wants.
Dschultz said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:58 am

Perhaps the current situation is beyond my level of comprehension and you are smarter than me. But I don’t think so. I know for a fact that Texas, since Mack and GD arrived, has scored alot of points. Probably around 40 per game. That also probably puts Texas in the top 10 nationally over that period. Sure Texas has lot some games over the last 12 seasons where the offense laid an egg – but before this season there have not been many at all. In most of the losses before this season either the defense gave up too many points, the special teams failed, a key starter was injured or we just lost to a better team (that happens sometimes). Outside of this season, there are probably between 5 and 10 games total where anyone could make a legitimate argument that the Texas offense should or even could have done more. That is over 12 seasons!
Zombie Horn said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:00 am

Dude, several people responded to your post with factual observations. You’ve ignored the observations and simply repeated your tired argument that points per game is the only metric in judging the effectiveness of an OC. Greg, is that you?
Dschultz said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:05 am

I recall that Texas won almost every game in 2009 while scoring a ton of points. Muschamp should thank GD for A&m just as GD should thank Muschamp for OU and NU. You’ve got to take the good with the bad…
RichUT said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:05 am

My point around PPG was not very clear. Mack would always throw out our average PPG when criticism about Greg would come up. He always had that to fall back on. Anyone with a brain knew that it was a misleading statistic because so many of those points came against patsies.

However, that changed this year. We couldn’t crack 40 against damn near one anyone. FAU was the only game where we eclipsed that mark. Otherwise, we flat out sucked against everyone.

So, Mack’s tried and true defense against the Davis haters is gone. I think he finally understands that the game has passed Greg by, and that’s why you will see him take a new non-coaching role within the program.
Max Fischer said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:13 am

2009 the D and ST scored a ton of points. The offense was meh. Particularly against quality opposition, as pointed out above.
Zombie Horn said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:14 am

“So, Mack’s tried and true defense against the Davis haters is gone. I think he finally understands that the game has passed Greg by, and that’s why you will see him take a new non-coaching role within the program.”

Exactly, success in college football requires innovativeness and constant scheme adjustment due to the always changing cast of players. Greg Davis had two very mobile all-world NFL QBs in a row which allowed him to avoid being innovative. It’s time we get an OC with a fire in his belly and a desire to innovate.
Dschultz said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:14 am

Only an “idiot” would compare the defenses our offense has to prepare for to those of Boise and TCU. How did Boise do last night? Oh yeah they didn’t score enough points. So I guess we can scratch their OC off the list. After all they lost to Nevada.
Dschultz said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:20 am

Isn’t points per game the primary metric for judging on OC? Isn’t the object of the game to outscore, with points, the opposition. I really don’t care about anything else but points. Can anyone provide a list if things more important in a football game?
Zombie Horn said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:21 am

“Only an “idiot” would compare the defenses our offense has to prepare for to those of Boise and TCU. How did Boise do last night? Oh yeah they didn’t score enough points. So I guess we can scratch their OC off the list. After all they lost to Nevada.”

I’ll bet BSU wouldn’t wait 14 years to fire the OC if he repeatedly had poor efforts against good teams. Why are you on GD’s nuts? I can understand your argument that he may not be as bad as everyone says, but is that the standard you hold for a Texas coach? The “he’s not so bad” standard. We’re the premier sports program in the nation, only the best is acceptable. GD, even if you think he’s a decent OC, is clearly not the best we can get at Texas.
Zombie Horn said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:24 am

“Isn’t the object of the game to outscore, with points, the opposition. I really don’t care about anything else but points.”

No, it’s about wins and championships. Scoring more points against a bunch of directional schools is nice, but I want to score more points than the OUs, Alabamas, and USCs of the world. Hell, this season I would’ve been happy with just more points than the ISUs, Baylors, and UCLAs of the world.
Max Fischer said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:24 am

Maybe delve into the standard deviation of that avg. You’ve repeatedly ignored what everyone has been saying about how the offense has performed against quality opposition. We crush bad teams. We curl up into a ball against good teams.
striker said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:24 am

I do not have access to such info. WOULD BE INTERESTING to look at the stats of games played against ranked opponents. Otherwise the stats are slanted. Are defense stats look poor this year.. WHY… because our offense cannot make solid drives and score. As Touch downs were a rare commodity. Granted we were weak on the DL and that was poor recruiting in pre muschamp years. Next year defense will have DT depth. Our offense under GD. Seems like we would have had a QB that would have experience. Hint-When Colt McCoy was a junior should have had a back up getting snaps… No stable RB and no sign of a TE. That falls on the OC responsibility. The complete offense needs new coaches and one exception of applewhite moved to QB coach.
striker said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:27 am

I always found this interesting. Schools try to recruit our defensive Coaches. SEEMS A LITTLE ODD THAT UNIVERSITIES NEVER SEEM TO RECRUIT OUR OFFENSIVE COACHES. They are a bunch of fensive premadonna coaches. Seems like we can not give them away to some other football team.
striker said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:31 am

Has any college level team tried to recruit UT current offensive coaches? If not then one could ponder why no activity or minimal activity to attract UT current offensive coaches. Does everyone else in the world of football coaching realize that they win with talent not great coaching. Applies only to offensive schemes
Il Cattivo said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:34 am

Dschultz- Please enumerate each of the head coaching jobs or offensive coordinator positions offered to that offensive genius Greg Davis over the past 12-years. Hell, just cite some speculation, any, that another program or franchise wanted him. Thanks.
Dschultz said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:34 am

I can’t argue with wanting a coach who has a fire in his belly or is innovative. I don’t know GD. Never met him. I don’t know if he is these things or not. What I do know is that before this season Texas consistently scored alot of points. You can attribute some of that to Colt and VY., although i would stop bragging about hjeir NFL credentials. But those guys weren’t calling their own plays. Is everyone so loathe to admit that the talent just isn’t there on this team? I’ve seen overthrows, tips and bounced passes. I’ve seen drops aplenty by everyone. I’ve seen atrocious blocking. You can only teach someone who is not that good so much. Should they shock MW next time he drops a ball? Should they waterboard GG if he doesn’t throw it past the sideline on an out route? If the players don’t have it then they don’t have it. If you want to hate GD then hate the way he evaluated high school talent over the last few seasons.
Dschultz said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:36 am

I just don’t think that playcalling is the problem.
Dschultz said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:43 am

GD has been offered no jobs that I am aware of- just like Akina. And to take your argument a step further, getting HC offers from Syracuse, San Jose State, Minnesota, and Iowa State frankly suck and are really no better than getting no offers at all. So no one on either side of the ball has gotten a good offer in a long time.
SizzleChest said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:46 am

DSchultz, there’s a fella called echeese who you should befriend and have a beer with. You boys might be brothers.
Zombie Horn said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:46 am

Facepalm.
53 Veer Pass said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:50 am

No, play design is the problem, except for times like the first two plays of this year’s OU game. Play calling AND play design problems were on display there. As was abandoning the run, and playing not to lose, and ignoring the middle of the field, etc.
Dschultz said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:57 am

“Facepalm” is a real mature way to end this thing. Like I said yesterday, I kinda hope that GD resigns just so you can see what it’s like on the other side. The best case senario is that the offense scores a bit more overall and perhaps marginally more againt our toughest competition. But I doubt it. Our opponents are competing too! Talk to y’all in a year…
SizzleChest said:

November 27th, 2010 at 11:05 am

yes, please don’t return for one year. PLEASE.
Jon said:

November 27th, 2010 at 11:18 am

holy shit, greg davis supporters actually exist.
Kenny Powers said:

November 27th, 2010 at 11:31 am

You’re Fucking Out, I’m Fucking In.
53 Veer Pass said:

November 27th, 2010 at 11:45 am

” I kinda hope that GD resigns just so you can see what it’s like on the other side.”

Yep, because the only two choices are GD and something worse.
striker said:

November 27th, 2010 at 11:55 am

Our last recent years of Offensive and Defensive Coordinators.

Defense***
Greg Robinson- GONE- Syracuse, Michigan
Gene Chizik-GONE- Iowa State, Auburn
Will Muschamp-Heavily Recruited by Tennessee, speculation of USC, Georgia- Able to retain due to his prize of a soon to be head coach of Texas

Offense***
Cannot recall any third party of college or pro having an interest in our offensive coaches
WHY…??? Please feel in the blanks to the question WHY….
stuckinmn said:

November 27th, 2010 at 11:55 am

“Like I said yesterday, I kinda hope that GD resigns just so you can see what it’s like on the other side. ”

Well, at least we agree on one thing.
t1climb1 said:

November 27th, 2010 at 11:57 am

GD has been offered no jobs that I am aware of- just like Akina. And to take your argument a step further, getting HC offers from Syracuse, San Jose State, Minnesota, and Iowa State frankly suck and are really no better than getting no offers at all. So no one on either side of the ball has gotten a good offer in a long time.

I think you’re an idiot and all but you are entitled to your opinion. However, at least get your facts right. There’s all sorts of things wrong with this post. First, Comparing Akina’s offers to Davis’ is not an apples to apples comparison. Akina is a position coach. He was made co-defensive coordinator in 2007, failed miserably, and was demoted back to position coach. As far as the no one on either side getting a good offer in a long time. You can dismiss Chizik’s offer to coach at Iowa St and Robinson’s offer at Syracuse all you want, but those are D1 jobs in BCS conferences. That’s nothing to sneeze at. Very few guys ever get offers from the big boy programs without prior HC experience. Oh wait, our current DC has been offered the Tennessee job, Auburn job, is coveted by Georgia, and oh by the way, Mack and Deloss saw enough in him to name him the heir to the throne after less than a year in Austin. Sooo I guess there are people on one side of the ball who are getting offers.
Texas said:

November 27th, 2010 at 11:59 am

Striker nailed it.

Texas DC’s get snatched up like crazy. Greg Davis has NO ONE wanting him. He is anchor on this program. Greg’s problems are only followed by Mack’s meddling. The next OC needs to have full control.

Mack can do what he does best….charm parents, talk good bull in a press conference, etc.
striker said:

November 27th, 2010 at 12:00 pm

List of OC
1. Dana Holgerson
2. Auburn OC
2.5 Boise St or TCU OC
3. Out of the box with a choker chain and commitment to run approx 1/2 plays goto Mike Leach. He will have to do some public service too. Give him new and clean opportunity
This is a reach.. Imagine Will Muscham and Mike Leach as Def and Off coordinators. One could only imagine or dream of such scenario.
RichUT said:

November 27th, 2010 at 12:05 pm

Peterson is the de facto OC for Boise. We obvioulsy are not getting him.

I also think we can do better than the TCU OC. Not saying he’s bad, but I think we can do better.
striker said:

November 27th, 2010 at 12:07 pm

Okay.. Mike Leach was meant to be joke. Seriously, who would be able and willing to become OC at Texas. Who is a good fit for the University and Team. We all know Dana Holgerson but who else and why is that a great fit??
striker said:

November 27th, 2010 at 12:10 pm

You may be right RichUT. Who do you feel would be a good fit for Texas? I can think of many great OC but just cannot think who would be a good fit and willing to take the job. Granted they are currently with good teams and already waiting for offers to become head coaches. Suggestions/thoughts
striker said:

November 27th, 2010 at 12:17 pm

Norm Chow at UCLA?
Dan Holgerson- Would he take new coaching gig after one year?
Auburn OC-No… winning because of one player. Besides he is in a good scenario at Auburn.
If we could take Norm Chow from UCLA would be HUGE… Proven to be versatile and recruit.
Blake B said:

November 27th, 2010 at 12:33 pm

Norm Chow is Greg Davis lite. The game is over his head now and he’s too old. He also does the hand on the head thing that I hate with GD. The point about Malzahn is completely wrong. He went in two years ago, without Cam Newton, and at least doubled their scoring output. I think we can find somebody comparable to Chris Todd, don’t you?
RichUT said:

November 27th, 2010 at 12:47 pm

Malzahn and Holgerson would be my top 2. It’s hard for me to fathom that we would have to go further than 2 candidates to find someone that would take the job.

Gus did some really good things at Arkansas without Cam Newton too. Tulsa’s offense was pretty damn good when he was there. The guys seems to know how to put the defense in tough situations.

If neither of those guys work out, perhaps McElwain from Bama would want to get out from under Saban. They seem to be able to run the ball while still staying aggressive in the passing game.
UT Longhorn said:

November 27th, 2010 at 12:51 pm

“Like I said yesterday, I kinda hope that GD resigns just so you can see what it’s like on the other side. ”

Yes and you will be the ass clown who is rationalizing how much we miss GD when we are only averaging 36.5 points under the new OC; because we all know the average points per game is what’s REALLY important. IN THE MEANTIME, we will have won 3 conference titles and another national championship.

I feel like we’re trying to rationalize with my 6 year old son here…
Fellache Me said:

November 27th, 2010 at 1:01 pm

Dschultz,

Just wanted to throw out another couple names outside of Vince Young and Colt McCoy that makes your GD averages 40 ppg and is a great offensive coordinator sound like bullshit. He also had a couple guys like Ricky Williams, Cedric Benson, Jamal Charles, Roy Williams, Limas Sweed, Quan Cosby, and Jordan Shipley, just to name a few over his tenure to make him look good. I didn’t even name any of the tight ends or o-lineman that he has in the NFL that he should be thanking every day of his life that he is still receiving paychecks from UT. A guy like Holgerson would have won 3-4 National Championships with the talent that GD has had!

PS Please do not respond to this post. I like the thought of not hearing back from you until next year! Hook’em
Bartoncreek said:

November 27th, 2010 at 2:00 pm

I posted this on the game thread:

I would like to formally endorse Chad Morris as OC. He took over a Tulsa offense that finished 54th in the country in 2009 and has turned them into the 7th best offense this year, his first. Watching his teams at Lake Travis play the previous two years was a joy. I would go to their games and marvel at how much better prepared, smarter and more complex his offenses were compared to what I’d witness the following day at DKR. It was really a thing of beauty.

He is as good a young coach as we would ever find. There is a reason that Sherm tried to hire him on the spot after he gave the Ags a 15 minute presentation on running the two minute offense. Imagine how impressive a high school coach would have to be to have an old NFL stooge like Sherm give him a job offer after a 15 minute presentation. It wasn’t even an interview. It was, “holy shit this guy is a ot smarter than we are, give him a job”

He would be an enormous upgrade over Davis without a doubt.
striker said:

November 27th, 2010 at 2:25 pm

Blake B and RichUT… You guys are right about Malzahn. I was wrong about his success was based upon Cam Newton. He did turn around an average/poor offense and was building a great offensive program. Leap froged by Cam Newton.

Chad Morris has potential but to much of a risk for a UT program. Need a splash. Let Chad Morris goto a school in tough conference. No splash to much risk. Tulsa does not play in a tough conference. Need a Known proven OC. I am on RichUT and Blake B endorsment of Malahn. Proven success, can continue to improve offense and can recruit. Auburn has had some very nice recruiting classes the past couple of years.

UT Longhorn- Your accurate about Norm Chow being GD lite.

Must be
1. Proven in tough conference/competitive
2. Good recruiter
3. Nationally recognized in mainstream football
4. Muschamp approved after Mack Brown selects his final two targets
5. ???willing to accept that Muschamp will be the head coach in a year or two and looks favorable to the final last season or two of Mack Brown to Muschamp regime.
Seems like Malzahn would be a great fit.
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 2:25 pm

This string is full of negative assholes.
SizzleChest said:

November 27th, 2010 at 2:44 pm

As opposed to just assholes?
RichUT said:

November 27th, 2010 at 3:01 pm

Is there such a thing as a positive asshole?
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 3:17 pm

Sorry. You’re right – just assholes. And that unfortunate because we should all be on the same side.
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 3:22 pm

Instead of being respectful of Dscultz’s opinion several of you called him an idiot. Although I don’t fully agree with his argument, we can do better than calling someone names. When we do that we become like aggie.
SizzleChest said:

November 27th, 2010 at 3:55 pm

Zeke, fair point, but what are we supposed to do? Completely ignore the line of discussion he DSchultz opened? Have everyone just post “Well, we agree to disagree”? Does that promulgate a robust discussion or just sanitize and dumb down the discourse?

Posting here is not for everyone.
Fellache Me said:

November 27th, 2010 at 4:01 pm

I never called Dschultz an idiot, although I do think it is idiotic for ANYONE to think Greg Davis is a great, or even good offensive coordinator. He has made a living off of supreme talent and nothing more. We have won our conference twice in GD’s tenure. I wouldn’t necessarily consider that glaring success with top five recruiting classes every year.
triplehorn said:

November 27th, 2010 at 4:16 pm

Based entirely on what Bartoncreek said above, I vote for Chad Morris as well.
cmdr said:

November 27th, 2010 at 4:56 pm

Dschultz is an idiot.
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 5:28 pm

Let’s not forget that we should have won a third conference championship. The only blame GD gets for that is calling Chris Os # on the Texas 1 yard line. Otherwise it was really the defense that gave up like 39 points to Tech. If you want to blame someone look no further than Earl and Curtis.
Newy25 said:

November 27th, 2010 at 5:31 pm

Oh my good this guy is echeese. With spell check.
Newy25 said:

November 27th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

Zeke-

The offense threw a pick 6 in that game. The defense gave up 32 points. Now please go back down on Greg Davis.
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 5:36 pm

I don’t understand the bitterness on this string. The Nazis only wanted to hear one opinion too. Your aggression towards a different perspective but with the same goal makes me sad to be a Longhorn.
BramonceTaylor said:

November 27th, 2010 at 5:52 pm

Dschultz is probably some agg or sooner that made up a name just to try to rile us up. No UT fan with half a brain would defend GD at this point. Unless he just started watching last year, then he is excused for ignorance.
Newy25 said:

November 27th, 2010 at 6:01 pm

Straight to the Nazi card. No mention that he you are completely fucking wrong about how many points the defense gave up in that game?

How about we try this again Reverend Jackson – The defense did not give up 39 points in that game. Let’s start from facts and work our way towards a conclusion.
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 6:02 pm

See, just implying someone is “ignorant” or doesn’t “have half a brain” because they don’t share your opinion proves my point.
Newy25 said:

November 27th, 2010 at 6:05 pm

No you are ignorant because your recollection of the fucking facts are wrong. And you are either willfully choosing to ignore the real facts or too stupid to understand a pick 6 is not on the defense.

It is not because we are the fucking Nazi party although I think Hitler might be the only person able to remove Greg Davis from his current job, honestly.
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 6:06 pm

Ok the defense gave up alot of points to Tech- that’s the point. Someone mentioned a pick six earlier. I suppose GD put Colt in a position where that was the only outcome. Let’s blame GD for the pick six because he made the decision to throw the pass and didn’t tackle thr defender.
Newy25 said:

November 27th, 2010 at 6:07 pm

“I suppose GD put Colt in a position where that was the only outcome. Let’s blame GD for the pick six because he made the decision to throw the pass and didn’t tackle thr defender.”

Wait a minute. Time out.

Either your boy Davis is responsible for the outcome of the offense or he is not. Which is it?
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 6:14 pm

If the coordinators are responsible for the outcomes of every play they call, then why aren’t we talking about how Muschamps defense has been absolutely abused by explosive plays this season?
Newy25 said:

November 27th, 2010 at 6:15 pm

Oh my God you are JG and echeese all wrapped up into one creation.

No more.
triplehorn said:

November 27th, 2010 at 6:19 pm

Before hearing Bartoncreek mention Chad Morris, I was thinking about comments over time from various posters who pay attention about how many high school coaches in Texas could coach circles around our offensive staff. While great up and coming coaching talent isn’t limited to Texas, it would make for a great in-state story to have a well respected, innovative, and motivational high school coach from the ranks in Texas become the OC at UT.

Gus Malzahn isn’t that far removed from being a high school coach. Morris sounds like a perfect blend of Texas pedigree combined with experience and success at the hs and college levels, all while being on the early up-slope of his career arc.

I would take a serious look.
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 6:38 pm

Sorry to bring up Muschamp. Although what I said is absolutely true, it was way out of bounds on my part. I forgot we were only bashing GD here.
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 7:16 pm

Oh, there goes another 60+ yard run by an opponent.
cody said:

November 27th, 2010 at 7:38 pm

Zeke, I’m having trouble figuring out what your argument is. Would you maintain that:
a) Both coordinators are both doing a good job
b) Davis is doing a good job and Muschamp is doing a poor job
c) Neither coordinator is doing a good job
Jesus Shuttlesworth said:

November 27th, 2010 at 8:45 pm

We should stop arguing. It’s all a moot point. This shit’s going down, and it’s going down soon. It’s a matter of days at this point.
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 8:52 pm

C.
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 8:54 pm

But it’s interesting that there is no complaining about Muschamp here. It’s also interesting that, from the sound of the article, that Muschamp is driving this and Mack is tolerating it.
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 8:56 pm

Who is in charge here ( at Texas)?
Jesus Shuttlesworth said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:01 pm

Zeke, you need to slow your roll over here. The article never said that.
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

“We were the first to tell you that Muschamp and Brown want to make a big splash hire on the offensive side of the ball…” and “Muschamp has said publicly that he wants a pro style attack…” sure seems to suggest that Muschamp is at least partially in control if not with both hands on the wheel. Plus there were the references of Muschamp’s preference for S&C coach. Is Muschamp in charge or us Mack?
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:26 pm

Up until tonight I would have thought that Holgerson would be a good replacement for GD. But frankly Holgerson’s offense looks awful and certainly no better than ours did against OU. Thus, I’m not convinced that changing OC would make a difference. Holgerson has no running game and his Qb is turning the ball over ever third possession.
SizzleChest said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:29 pm

Zeke, can you just not parse this stuff? Are you incapable of understanding what these words mean when grouped together?

Brown is, based on JS’s sources, driving the bus, but with WMs input.

If that’s not good enough for you, you might need a penis pacifier or a gross of 4 Loko to calm your active senses.
Easttxhorn said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:33 pm

JS, you say it is going down soon when do you think everything will happen. Also who is your best guess as to who fills the positions that will be open?
Easttxhorn said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:34 pm

JS, when do you think everything goes down, and who is your best guess as to who fills the positions that will be open?
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:37 pm

Sorry man, but the written words suggest significant input from the #2, and the #1 going along with it. That’s not parsing, that’s just reading comprehension. Do you have a different interpretation of those quotes?
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:39 pm

All facets of Ok St are really picking up for Holgerson’s offense tonight. I hope Mack is watching.
RGB said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:41 pm

JS, who do you think will get the positions on the staff that will open up?
triplehorn said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

Taking a closer look at Tulsa OC and former Lake Travis HS HC Chad Morris’ career resume, he is a coach who has maintained a very high win percentage at multiple schools over time. In other words, he maximizes productivity and wins with the players he’s got. That is a hallmark of a great coach.
Jwags said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:43 pm

I don’t see how Muschamp gets a pass on this season. 3rd and 4 is a running down against UT.
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

Brilliant draw called by Holgerson with no time outs. This dude is absolutely no better than GD! You guys are gonna be so disappointed.
Jesus Shuttlesworth said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

RGB, we’ve got a couple names. The article naming some names should be up late tonight or tomorrow. This is also moving faster than originally thought.
RichUT said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:53 pm

Shut the fuck up, moron.
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:54 pm

Dude there is NO way we are hiring a HS coach as our OC. C’mon man are you his agent?
RGB said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:54 pm

JS, is it just names on the cordinator level or position coaches as well?
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:57 pm

You’re the fucking moron and that will be proven next season when the offense is really no better. That is unless Malcolm Brown is truly a difference maker. But that won’t have anything to do with the new OC.
Jesus Shuttlesworth said:

November 27th, 2010 at 9:58 pm

Just position coaches right now.
triplehorn said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:09 pm

Dude there is NO way we are hiring a HS coach as our OC. C’mon man are you his agent?

Right now, Chad Morris has the identical coaching title at the same college that Gus Malzahn maintained barely 2 years ago. dude.
Zeke said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:19 pm

Sorry missed the part about the Tulsa OC. Anyway, can’t we do better than the Tulsa OC/ex-HS coach to run our offense?
Sasha is a Longhorn Dog said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

Thanks, Jesus. Now I’m going to be refreshing this site continuously for the next 24 hours. I DO have law school finals to study for, you know. ;-)

In all seriousness, thanks for the hard work. Your reports are beacons of hope that shine bright lights into my dreary life of crappy Longhorn football and stressful law school exams.
Jesus Shuttlesworth said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:37 pm

Thanks Sasha. Glad to hear you’re going to law school. After divulging some of this stuff, we may need representation.
magic loogie said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:38 pm

Chad Morris excites me much more than Holgerson. I’m a big believer in looking at someone’s coaching tree to make projections….i.e. Stoops > Leach, Mangino, Mike Stoops, Pelini, and Kevin Wilson (notorious bad guy). And those are just the public ones.

I’m just too wary of his association with Leach and their ongoing relationship. Anyone that close with a creep usually is creepy themselves. Did you notice that most of Leach’s other assts disavowed the guy when he got fired? Not Holgerson, they still talk weekly. And that doesn’t even include being a Hal Mumme guy…yuck. And the fact that Holgerson is relatively new on the scene doesn’t give UT a lot to vet him. If you hire him now, you just gotta cross your fingers. The UT situation doesn’t offer that luxury.

On the other hand, i don’t know much about Chad other than his bio. I’d be interested to know what some the Recruitniks here think about how his HS coaching experience translates into recruiting….was he beloved? Or not necessarily?

It’d be really interesting to see how he’d deal with Gilbert. Could Gilbert go back to HS production levels, or would Morris bench him for the best guy?

THE CHAD MORRIS FILE

Age: 41
Wife: Paula (fourth-grade teacher in Lake Travis school district) Children: Mackenzie, 13, and Chandler, 9.

College: Texas A&M

Overall record: 169-38 (16 seasons)

1992-93: Assistant coach, Eustace (Texas) High School

1994-97: Head coach, Eustace (Texas) High School

1998-99: Head coach, Elysian Fields (Texas) High School

2000-02: Head coach, Bay City (Texas) High School

2003-07: Head coach, Stephenville (Texas) High School

2008-09: Head coach, Lake Travis (Texas) High School

Notes: Bay City (2000) and Lake Travis (2008, 2009) won Texas state championships. Elysian Fields (1998, 1999) and Bay City (2001) were Texas state runner-ups … Morris has won 11 coach-of-the-year awards … Lake Travis’ 2008 team was ranked No. 2 by USA TODAY and No. 8 by Rivals.com … Lake Travis’ 2009 squad was rated No. 9 by USA TODAY and No. 2 by Rivals. com.
Texoz said:

November 27th, 2010 at 10:49 pm

Thanks Sasha. Glad to hear you’re going to law school. After divulging some of this stuff, we may need representation.

I’m not a lawyer, but I’ve seen a few episodes of “Matlock.” Would be happy to help if you can turn my tap water into wine. I’m tired of lugging those boxes around.
stuckinmn said:

November 27th, 2010 at 11:11 pm

So Morris coached both Gilbert and Jevan Snead in high school? Basically he made 2 guys look like 5 star recruits when it turns out they were not. Call him the anti-GD.

I’ve kind of soured on Holgerson after watching the game tonight. Granted, it was only one game, and yes I am a fickle bastard, but OU seemed to have his offense pretty well figured out. There were a few plays I would have surely been pissed about if I saw Texas running.

I’ll grant that the playcalling and scheme was still a vast improvement over GD, but is that honestly the standard we should be aiming for here?
Jesus Shuttlesworth said:

November 27th, 2010 at 11:14 pm

Just wanted to clear some things up with respect to one of my comments above. At this point, every source we’ve talked to from all the different spheres of influence in and outside the program, have told us Davis won’t be calling plays at Texas next season. Could that change? Sure. But we’re sticking by our guns until we hear otherwise. As for replacements, we haven’t heard anything outside of the usual suspects.
Texas said:

November 27th, 2010 at 11:15 pm

Only position coaches? Crud

We need Davis gone! Any change that does not include Greg Davis will not get it done!
Jesus Shuttlesworth said:

November 27th, 2010 at 11:16 pm

Texas, see my comment right above yours.
Texas said:

November 27th, 2010 at 11:30 pm

JS,

Just saw it. Thanks brother.
Jim Tom Pinch said:

November 27th, 2010 at 11:41 pm

Good stuff, Jesus. Keep it coming. You’re making Bill Little’s waddle quiver.
Schwetty Balls said:

November 27th, 2010 at 11:47 pm

Any desire to take a look at Mark Helfrich at Oregon? I assume not simply because Chip Kelly seems to run the play calling. However, they might at least take a look.
Mr. Orange said:

November 27th, 2010 at 11:53 pm

There needs to be some sort of license to post on fantake blogs. Only then will nimrods like DSchultz and Zeke be weeded out. Reading their posts makes me want to poke my eyes out with an icepick. Everyone has their own opinions about who should be the next OC, but attempting in any way to defend the tenure of Greg Davis at Texas is the stupidest fucking thing I’ve ever heard in my life. And in the immortal words of Ron White, “you can’t cure stupid”.
Zeke said:

November 28th, 2010 at 9:03 am

Yeah, y’all should have a vetting process that ensures there is only one opinion while stroking each other about Holgerson and the Tulsa OC. That guy would make a huge splash in recruiting I’m sure.

See my Nazi comment from before and then call me an idiot or a moron. But every time you do it just further supports the statement. It’s so sad that you can’t take a contrary point of view.
stuckinmn said:

November 28th, 2010 at 9:54 am

Contrary points of view are fine, even welcome. Stupid ones are not. And if you are unable to distinguish the two, then assume they are the latter.
gardzilla said:

November 28th, 2010 at 10:24 am

Does OSU’s loss and subsequent fall out of the Big 12 title game/BCS bowl opportunity make it more likely that Holgerson bolts pre-bowl? I know the Offense didn’t look shit-hot last night, but he didn’t lose that much luster in my eyes after just one game. Add to that, whether Holgerson is the hire or not, whoever it is will not be named Greg Davis and will not be protected at all costs by our HC. Results will matter and if they aren’t getting it done, Mack has shown he can cut ties with non-bff DC’s over the years.

Does anyone know who Muschamp’s best man was? Let’s not hire that asshole no matter who he is.
SlickStreet said:

November 28th, 2010 at 10:33 am

I didn’t catch the whole game, but it seems logical to assume OSU’s offense is going to be handicapped a bit by the sudden downgrade of Blackmon. I’d see him in for one play, then hobble out.
Zeke said:

November 28th, 2010 at 10:42 am

Let me make it clear that I don’t like bubble screens and horizontal passes. It doesn’t work well for us, although it seems to for other teams. What you guys are refusing to recognize is that:

1) the opposition is trying to win too. So if GD makes a playcall, the other team has a DC whose job it is to neutralize it. Sometimes the other team’s DC is going to be successful. Do you acknowledge that will happen to any OC?

2) the opposition has talented playmakers too. I don’t need to list the all-Americans we’ve faced over the last decade but there have been a few. Do you acknowledge that great defensive players will make great plays despite a great playcall?
SlickStreet said:

November 28th, 2010 at 11:30 am

Lot more to a raw playcall than just the call itself, as you’re aware. For instance, ever notice the blocking by those teams who successfully utilize those plays, as well as the fact the receivers are actually moving forward?
GD is just hideously obsessed with this stationary, no momentum, east-west bullshit, and that largely goes with his run game as well. Even he himself has admitted, at times, he way overdoes this, whether that be after the ’06 season’s ground game efforts with Selvin and Jamaal, or after the UCLA game just this year in the passing game (yet you saw the first two worthless plays vs OU the game right after that).
He is so reliant on superstar talent to make the plays that he’s at a loss when he doesn’t appear to have that to the same degree.
All coaches need a certain degree of talent to work with, but GD seems to be on another level in that regard.
I’ve only touched the surface of the complaints about the guy, because the subject is frankly beaten to death.
I do agree of course that other DC’s and opponents come into play at times. Of course that’s true. But it doesn’t extinguish a lot of the fundamentally flawed issues regarding GD.
Zeke said:

November 28th, 2010 at 11:43 am

Ok. We are getting alot closer here. While a change at OC may be helpful in alot of respects, it’s hard to score more points than we have over the last 12 years – even against our toughest opponents. I estimate that we’ve scored on about 60-70% of our possessions (outside of this season). Is it realistic to expect another OC to do better on a consistent basis? Don’t forget about the efforts and talent of our toughest opponents too.
SlickStreet said:

November 28th, 2010 at 11:58 am

While GD’s O’s have overall done much, much better the last several years against the better defenses, I hate to say it, but a good part of that came from QBs who were other-wordly as ad-libbers, guys who could still not only survive but thrive when a play broke down. It’s hard to replicate a Vince or Colt, and you have to ask should we really need someone that outright tremendous? Otherwise, you’re probably looking more and more at results like we saw prior to Vince (or even with him before they turned him loose). Games like three points vs OU (’01) or a goose egg (’04), or other pretty meaningless production numbers, like the 14 in ’00 after they already had us long beaten.

We really saw a return to this last year even, despite Colt and Shipley being on hand, because the O’ vs OU (to a large degree) and Nebraska (the entirety) were gawd-awful.
This year, though, was the first I’ve seen under GD where the O’ was even non existent against ghastly opponents. If you look at the NCAA rankings of the teams’ defenses we faced, it’s appalling to think we didn’t light them up, much less get nearly shut out for three quarters when the game mattered.

It’s frightening to think it could get any worse. If GD was a lot younger and hungrier, then maybe he could make meaningful adjustments. Alas, he’s the opposite. Even if he could make some changes, I don’t see them being nearly enough to overcome his deficiencies. He may not be the worst coordinator in the history of football, lol (I know some may seem to feel that way), but he’s certainly not close to what we should expect at Texas.
Zeke said:

November 28th, 2010 at 12:55 pm

You’re right the offensive performances in the games you mentioned were awful. My point is that OU is a tough opponent and it’s unrealistic to expect we will beat them every year. They’ve had great players and they try to beat us. Didn’t we rely on the offense to beat OU in ’08 and A&M last season?

I’ve also heard the argument that GD is successful because of Colt and VY. While they deserve a ton of credit for their abilities, I’m not going to bash GD for that blessing. Instead, I say great job recruiting those guys! They could have gone elsewhere.
SlickStreet said:

November 28th, 2010 at 1:05 pm

recruiting’s a huge component, no doubt. Maybe a bigger point is that an OC at UT shouldn’t need to rely quite so heavily on a QB to make fantastic plays time and again when a play breaks down. The fact it often does could reveal a flaw in the system.

We won’t score tons of points against great defenses. They’re great for that reason. But you also wouldn’t expect our production to be below what those stop units average allowing for the year. We see that more than we should with GD when you consider the body of work. Hints of that were available before he arrived at UT when he was with Mack at UNC. In the two games a nationally ranked UNC team played FSU, they scored a total of three points.
Zeke said:

November 28th, 2010 at 1:48 pm

First of all, SlickStreet thanks for having a civil discussion with me.

I acknowledge that you make a compelling argument. I think you are implying I have made some good points also.

Recruiting is the life blood if our program. Most lesser teams have the ability to snipe and win any given game (see Boise vs. OU), but to be consistently successful at this you gave to have great talent. I’m not going to penalize GD for that.

I have never followed UNC closely, but there really is no shame in struggling against Florida State in the ’90s.
SlickStreet said:

November 28th, 2010 at 1:59 pm

no problem regarding the discussion.
FSU was a great program, true. But three points in two games is precisely my point, as both those games with GD (he only coached with Mack in ’96 and ’97 at UNC) were the lowest point totals FSU allowed.
Uneducated Observer said:

November 28th, 2010 at 2:08 pm

Another problem with GD is that his play calls are extremely predictable. This coming from a guy who never played football past 7th grade. Just by looking at the players trotting out onto the field and the down and distance, I can tell you the play call 8 or 9 times out of 10. It feels almost like GD has a formula saying when to run what plays and follows it to a T. If my uneducated (with regards to football) self can predict his play calls so well, no wonder opposing DCs tee off on our offense so often. GDs offenses have seemed to rely on the fact that even with the defense knowing our play, our players can just out-athlete their players flat out. In the past, we have had the athletes (VY, Shipley, Colt) to make that work. Not so much this season, obviously. GD has shown an amazing lack of creativity and ability to build misdirection into plays and multiplicity into formations. He is not the worst OC ever, but Texas fans have every right to be discontent with what he brings to the table. More is expected at Texas.
Zeke said:

November 28th, 2010 at 2:25 pm

I have really high expectations tempered with the reality that were not gonna win em all. No one ever has. Until this season we’ve done really well offensively. I really can’t imagine an offense being much better over the last 12 years. I don’t know about the play predictability. If that’s true we have had incredible success despite that.
Roostrman said:

November 28th, 2010 at 3:37 pm

Throw all of this out the window and just realize that GDGD has been around for 13 years and all the DC’s share the “book” on us. The Stoops crew figured it out and all the coaching circles have friends and family and talk. Throw in a weak O line coach / players and you got us cold. No one puts a Hat on the LB in a GDGD system???. Recievers run plan vanilla routes/flys etc , no z’s . GDGD best play of the year may have been the TD to Goodwin against the Ags.
Zombie Horn said:

November 28th, 2010 at 3:52 pm

GD has had his good moments, no one disputes this. The question isn’t whether GD is an adequate OC, the question is whether he’s the best available for Texas. Texas’ standard isn’t “he’s not so bad.” Our standard is “he’s the best.” I don’t know how anyone can possibly argue that GD is the best available OC.
SlickStreet said:

November 28th, 2010 at 3:56 pm

Zeke, I believe those wonderful numbers come more heavily at the expense of the lesser lights on our schedule (until this year, where that too has failed) than one should expect. I’ve given several specific examples of poor performance against the better defenses.

GD’s overall success (again, prior to this year) may have helped prevent a few upsets, but the many flip side examples also helped prevent Mack from attaining more conference titles.

Most of us would certainly say it’s reached a point for him to move on finally. I just hope that’s not the case for Mack, too, since he’s done a lot of good overall for the program. This off season is huge for him.

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